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Woman Harassed for Bumper Sticker Fights Back "
The Indiana Law Blog ^ | 6-30-2014 | ACLU

Posted on 07/01/2014 7:29:53 AM PDT by circlecity

From a news release:

Indianapolis - The American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana filed a lawsuit Friday on behalf of a woman who was pulled over and interrogated after her bumper sticker caught the attention of Indianapolis police officers, violating her First Amendment and Fourth Amendment rights.

On June 17, Pamela Konchinsky of Indianapolis was turning into the Merchants Garage on South Meridian Street in her silver Toyota minivan when two Indianapolis Metropolitan Police officers entered the garage immediately behind her. One of the officers told Konchinsky that she was being detained because of a bumper sticker taped to the rear window of her minivan, which read: "Unmarked Police Car." The officer told Konchinsky that people would think she was impersonating a police officer and that someone might shoot her. After reviewing her license and registration, Konchinsky was ordered to get out of her car and remove the bumper sticker.

IMPD officers' subjecting Konchinsky to detention, questioning, intimidation and harassment over the message on her bumper sticker violates two constitutional amendments: the First Amendment protecting free expression and the Fourth Amendment prohibiting unreasonable and suspicionless seizures.

"We contend that the police officers who detained and interrogated our client without legal grounds to do so violated her constitutional rights, said ACLU of Indiana Staff Attorney Kelly Eskew. "The promise of our Constitution is that these lines cannot be crossed."

The lawsuit, Pamela Konchinsky v. Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Officers John Doe I and John Doe II, Cause No. 1:14-cv-1078,was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Indiana, Indianapolis Division, on June 27, 2014.


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While I won't hesitate to jump on LE when they deserve it, I'm not convinced they were out of line here. Stopping the car just to determine if someone was really claiming to be a cop is reasonable. The stop should be just brief enough to advise her she should remove the sign and, if necessary, write a ticket. No dogs were killed. It was a good day.
1 posted on 07/01/2014 7:29:53 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I agree with the cops on this one.

It belongs in the you can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater file.


2 posted on 07/01/2014 7:33:27 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: circlecity

>> Stopping the car just to determine if someone was really claiming to be a cop is reasonable.

It’s probably over your head, but the whole point of her humor (and it IS humor) is that no unmarked police car could possibly be labeled as such. Or it would be a marked police car and then the label would be false. Get it now?


3 posted on 07/01/2014 7:34:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: circlecity

The woman is an idiot.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 7:34:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: circlecity

No laws broken....unless some state or county goofball made a law listing 1,323,883 bumper sticks illegal by their wording. Another cop with nothing to do, and no training. Send him home permanently, pay the gal $10k for stupid harassment, and move on.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 7:35:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: circlecity

It’s a stupid bumper sicker. But, it’s the last one a real unmarked police car would have on its bumper.


6 posted on 07/01/2014 7:35:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: circlecity
While I won't hesitate to jump on LE when they deserve it, I'm not convinced they were out of line here. Stopping the car just to determine if someone was really claiming to be a cop is reasonable. The stop should be just brief enough to advise her she should remove the sign and, if necessary, write a ticket. No dogs were killed. It was a good day.

I'm inclined to agree with you. But she could change her sign to "NOT AN UNMARKED POLICE CAR' and she probably would be stopped again.

7 posted on 07/01/2014 7:35:16 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“This bumper sticker is false!”


8 posted on 07/01/2014 7:35:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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seriously? why in the world would a "cop" in an unmarked police car label it as an unmarked police car? it is a joke... it could only be a joke... ridiculous...

but hey--i guess if two Freepers do not get the joke, then maybe it is dangerous to drive around with that sticker... hahaha--smh...

9 posted on 07/01/2014 7:36:47 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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***”We contend that the police officers who detained and interrogated our client without legal grounds to do so violated her constitutional rights, said ACLU of Indiana Staff Attorney Kelly Eskew. “The promise of our Constitution is that these lines cannot be crossed.”***

There are so many times they turned a blind eye to the most egregious violations of our Constitution, the aclu has no credibility at all.

10 posted on 07/01/2014 7:37:26 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Nervous Tick

More police officers that are unable to process a joke. At least they didn’t follow her home and shoot her dogs.


11 posted on 07/01/2014 7:37:32 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: circlecity
I guess the bumper sticker was humor; an sign saying this is unmarked if course would mark the car. Not that funny and given the level of literacy common with thugs the police have a point. Maybe they should not have required the signs removal but their protect and serve function should certainly cover good advice.
12 posted on 07/01/2014 7:38:07 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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Does anyone know WHY she likes driving around with a bumper sticker that says “Unmarked police car”? I’d like to hear her explanation. Does she do watch patrols? Is she into citizens arrests? Was this a video stunt? Context, folks.

The police do have an interest in questioning her because it is against the law in most jurisdictions to impersonate a police officer and if that was her purpose, she could do things that might later cause others to assume she is the official police department when she is not.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 7:38:39 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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"It’s probably over your head, but the whole point of her humor (and it IS humor) is that no unmarked police car could possibly be labeled as such. Or it would be a marked police car and then the label would be false. Get it now?"

Oh, I understood that. But what if it really was some nut or something else. Yeah, that's a thousand to one chance but cops are often criticized for not anticipating that thousand to one possibility. LE is also very touchy about bomb jokes in airport waiting lines. Given the situation the interaction should be as brief and nonconfrontational as possible, which it appears to have been here.

14 posted on 07/01/2014 7:38:59 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Yea, because undercover cops always label their “unmarked” Toyota minivans.

Yeesh.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 7:39:18 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: trisham
The woman is an idiot.

The cop is dumber, as apparently he thinks his colleagues in unmarked units display bumper stickers which say "Unmarked Police Car"


16 posted on 07/01/2014 7:40:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: circlecity

It’s rather cut and dry and nothing wrong here unless they shot her dog.

But really, why follow her into her garage? That’s an act of immediate aggression. Can’t they simply call from the sidewalk or go to their front door and knock?

Why does it all have to be in your face confrontation all the time.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 7:40:05 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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I wonder if “Mom’s Taxi” will soon be illegal for impersonating a taxi.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 7:40:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: pepsionice

“Another cop with nothing to do, and no training.”

He just wanted to get home safe at the end of his shift and what safer way to do so than by going after a law-abiding citizen? It’s way too dangerous to go after real criminals.

Think about this for a second. Would cops commit roadway robbery by handing out tickets to traffic law violators if every time they did so they were shot at by them? Absolutely not! They be going after the real criminals because the law-abiding are too dangerous to deal with.


19 posted on 07/01/2014 7:43:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: circlecity

Do people have a First Amendment right to walk around in a police uniform also? I always thought impersonating a police officer was illegal. I am leaning on the side of the police in this one.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 7:48:20 AM PDT by Durbin
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