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Putin Adviser Calls Poroshenko Nazi Leader of 'Frankenstein' Country
The St. Petersburg Times ^ | June 27, 2014 (Issue # 1817) | The St. Petersburg Times

Posted on 06/27/2014 10:20:51 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

A senior economic adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin has slammed Ukrainian leader Petro Poroshenko ahead of the country's signing of an EU deal on Friday, calling him an illegitimate president and a Nazi.

In an interview with the BBC published on Friday, Sergei Glazyev said Ukraine had a "clear Nazi government," which was employing force against its own people in the country's east.

"As for [Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseni] Yatsenyuk and Mr. Poroshenko, their coming to power is closely related to the government coup, which happened in Ukraine on the basis of Nazist slogans," he said.

Glazyev added Moscow did not consider Poroshenko a legitimate president, saying: "There is no official recognition, we speak with him, but we speak with him as a person who is leading a part of Ukraine [...] by effect, not by law."

(Excerpt) Read more at sptimes.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: nazi; poroshenko; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 06/27/2014 10:20:51 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Is there anyone outside of Putin’s inner clique that this nutcase would not call a Nazi?


2 posted on 06/27/2014 10:25:46 AM PDT by Agog
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To: WhiskeyX

What’s the difference between marxist/communist force and nazi or even progressive/collectivist force? None. Corrupt godless totalitarians, all.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 10:26:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: WhiskeyX

Well without the entire country included in the Presidential voting, and beating up and threatening any other candidates who opposed Maidens ideal candidate.... and with the US having positioned Poroshanko months before the reformation to take the Presidency.... it could easily be said Poroshenko is as illegal as Yats and the others when they took over Ukraine in their coup.

Of course Ukraine is noted for doing things backwards and off the mark.....So I suppose they see this as normal every day politics.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 10:29:20 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Then there's the situations such as chasing people into a building and burning them alive and slaughtering unarmed civilians at a checkpoint on Easter Eve. And it all started when the Kiev crowd banned the Russian language.

The term "Nazi" does seem to apply.

5 posted on 06/27/2014 10:33:02 AM PDT by grania
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To: WhiskeyX

This is the guy leading the charge to do away with Russia trading energy in U.S. Dollars, and to develop their own credit card and bank clearing system, dumping the Visa/MasterCard ones.

He has said that the EU Agreement signed today was “Suicide for Ukraine”. He is also pushing for a “Libya-style” no fly/no drive zone over the rebel states, and the opening of “Humanitarian Corridors” to them.

He’s not an official Kremlin spokesman, but he is a top Putin adviser.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 10:35:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: WhiskeyX

Regrettably, there is plenty of hatred and evil on both sides. George Soros kicked this off, no doubt with Obama’s help, and now the whole business is coming back to kick everyone in the face.

And, yes, there’s not much difference between a Nazi and a Communist.


7 posted on 06/27/2014 10:37:50 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson

...”Corrupt godless totalitarians, all”.....

Yes!


8 posted on 06/27/2014 10:38:34 AM PDT by caww
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To: WhiskeyX

Maybe he right.

Ukraine’s pro-EU protests show no sign of stopping – US Senator John McCain dined with opposition leaders this weekend, including the extreme far-right Svoboda party.

During his trip the former US presidential candidate met with government and opposition figures, but gave his endorsement to the pro-Europe protesters.

Senator McCain later waved to protesters from the stage in Independence Square during a mass rally in Kiev, standing with Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of the anti-Semitic Svoboda party.
Growing far-right

Svoboda, meaning freedom, has been enjoying a boom in success in recent years winning their first parliamentary seats in 2010, taking just over 10 per cent of the vote to become Ukraine’s fourth biggest party with 36 seats out of 450.

The ultra-nationalist group is aligned with other European far-right parties including the BNP, but their radical stance has made them a central force in the ongoing street protests.

The party was registered in 1995, initially called the Social National Party of Ukraine and using a swastika style logo.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ukraine-mccain-far-right-svoboda-anti-semitic-protests?x


9 posted on 06/27/2014 10:39:56 AM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime, it's the cover-up they said.)
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To: grania

Your posts consists of a series of half-truths and falsehoods. The events in Odessa to which you allude began when Russia sent armed militants from its territories and began shooting and killing Ukrainian demonstrators. A number of people ran into a building at which time people inside and outside the building began throwing Molotov cocktails at each other. There are still many unanswered questions including whether those Russian militants had a hand in poisoning those who perished in the building.

The Easter Eve “slaughter” to which you refer was the incident where a pristine, unscratched business card of the right sector leader, Yarosh, was supposedly found within a car that had been completely burnt out. It is widely believed that the Russian GRU agent who now runs Sloviansk was responsible for perpetrating that outrage.

The supposed banning of the Russian language is completely false. A law was passed by the parliament, but then vetoed, that would have rescinded having Russian as an official language of Ukraine. That law, even has it come into force, would not have banned the Russian language as you falsely claim.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 10:45:56 AM PDT by Agog
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To: McGruff

What percentage of the vote did Svoboda get in the most recent elections? Do you claim it was more than 2%? Because it was not. Meanwhile, in Russia, neo-Nazis proudly march in parades, and Russia’s puppet Donetsk republic is led by an actual neo-Nazi.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 10:48:01 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Agog

The new USSR is even planning to honor Lenin more often, even rename a city for him.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 10:50:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: grania

....”The term “Nazi” does seem to apply”....

Well the behavior is becoming ‘classic Ukrainian’.....blood and fire, bombs away and such... Poroshenko has simply enlarged it all under Ukrainian military groups throughout Ukraine.

At any rate this has nothing to do with Ukrainian’s....rather all their assests/resources have been and will continue to be up for sale to the highest ‘outside’ bidder.

Next will be the ...Quote..”humanitary effort” to rebuild what Keiv’s destroyed. Outside companies will be making loads of money off reconstruction of their Easts infastructure etc.....so all the money coming into Ukraine from the IMF will simply be ‘funneled’ through to the ‘outside’ companies standing by to come in once the dust settles.

Keiv and the EU/US simply bombed the area to smitherings, getting rid of all the old businesses and worn out areas....with that forcing mass Russian/Ukraine citizens to flee to Russia. Thus they elimenated the majority of citizens who opposed them.

So as I see it it was a deliberate plan to rid much of the East of blight and the ability for any further mass uprisings to oppose them...meanwhile the average Russian/Ukrainian will not be able to afford returning to the area once it’s rebuilt. It will be far too expensive.

This was much easier and more effective than to have a divided Ukraine.... all the gas and anything left in Ukraine of any value is in the East.........without it the EU/US and IMF had nothing left to gain by bailing out Ukraine.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 10:55:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: Agog

“A law was passed by the parliament, but then vetoed, that would have rescinded having Russian as an official language of Ukraine”

That law, as well as the statements of people involved in the coup, along with the overthrow of the regions preferred candidate, all contributed GREATLY to what is going on now.

And yet you say that is “completely false”. How you can do that in the same statement that you admit that the law was passed, is beyond me.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 10:56:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: WhiskeyX

Putin is going to unload on the Ukraine. He knows the first gay president will do nothing.


15 posted on 06/27/2014 10:57:27 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: McGruff

...”US Senator John McCain dined with opposition leaders this weekend, including the extreme far-right Svoboda party”....

Well anytime McCain is on the scene you can be guaranteed trouble is ahead for any country....whenever his mitts are in the pie, he brings destruction to everything his hands touch.....He just arranged for Bulgaria to get screwed by strong arming them to not co-operate with South-Stream....Putin simply was ahead of that game and signed with Austria.


16 posted on 06/27/2014 10:59:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: Agog

Putinists are apparently unable to comprehend the fact that not a single person died in Donbas until Russians like Girkin arrived in Ukraine and started killing.


17 posted on 06/27/2014 11:04:43 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: WhiskeyX

None of this would have happened if Putin had not started meddling in Ukraine in the first place.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 11:04:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: caww

“He just arranged for Bulgaria to get screwed by strong arming them to not co-operate with South-Stream”

And a week later, Bulgaria is facing a major bank run, that the Central bank says is being organized by “outside forces”....

By Associated Press June 27 at 9:47 AM

SOFIA, Bulgaria — A second Bulgarian bank has been hit by a run within the past week, prompting authorities to issue a statement claiming there is no reason for depositors to worry about their money despite reports the financial system is shaky.

First Investment Bank, Bulgaria’s third-largest lender, was the target of media rumors on Friday alleging that it was short on liquidity, causing public panic and a run on deposits.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/bulgarian-bank-hit-by-run-2nd-in-a-week/2014/06/27/87a75d3e-fe01-11e3-91c4-01dcd9b73086_story.html

There is a much bigger game going on than just Ukraine, and I have said it from the start.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 11:05:15 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

It is completely false to claim that the law was enacted, when it was not. It is completely false to claim that the law would have banned the Russian language, which it did not. Russian media, as well as useful idiots in the West, have repeatedly made this false claim, which helped to stoke fear and hatred in eastern Ukraine. This has been done quite deliberately to create a climate where Putin can claim that he is protecting Russian minorities from a threat that did not and does not exist.


20 posted on 06/27/2014 11:06:08 AM PDT by Agog
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