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1 posted on 06/18/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ah... no, not buying. Just like the Ruskie subs are sooo much better than ours, BS.


2 posted on 06/18/2014 7:28:34 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: sukhoi-30mki

When was the last ‘dogfight’ between real combatants? Korea?
With long range radar and self guided missiles, a pilot might never even see his enemy.....................


3 posted on 06/18/2014 7:28:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So the “author” of this piece ends it with talking about the F22 and then deftly sidesteps the effect or should I say, lack of effect the missiles would have on a F22.

How quaint...simulators are one thing and can be manipulated any number of ways...let’s put them up against each other in Red Flag, no holds barred...no rules, just fight.

That is where the truth lies...


4 posted on 06/18/2014 7:34:27 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The flying hardware is only one apect of the air battle. Two others are Command and Control and the skills of the pilots.

Command and Control is criticial in air combat. The pilot that sees the enemy first is usually the victor. CC is best used to position the pilots into that envelope.

IMO the most important factor is the pilot's skills and autonomous decision making. In that arena we have had a clear advantage after what we learned in Vietnam.

5 posted on 06/18/2014 8:14:09 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Taxman

Frank, you say..........?


6 posted on 06/18/2014 8:17:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So, when do we start adding Trust Vectoring to our F-15’s?


7 posted on 06/18/2014 8:25:44 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Put it up against a Block 52 F-16.


10 posted on 06/18/2014 8:41:31 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
First, read the parameters of that "infamous" exercise where the F-15s got wiped out. No AWACs, no BVR launches, and no jamming. What did they think would happen? If it was a shooting war there's a good chance the SU-30s don't even get off the ground as the airfields are going to get Tomahawked.

If you were a betting man, would you take 10 Su-30s with the Russian/Indian/Chinese electronic support or 4 F-22s with AWACs/JSTARs/F-18 Growlers? My money would be on most of the 10 SU-30s being shot down with no casualties to the F-22s.

13 posted on 06/18/2014 8:58:48 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: sukhoi-30mki

After the unification Germany get into the possession of several MiG 29 and AA-11 Archer missiles.

Soon after that Germany started the IRIS-T missile. One of the main features is lock-on after launch. That feature is used to fire this type of missile through a torpedo tube to kill searching helicopters (IDAS).


26 posted on 06/19/2014 2:16:17 PM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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