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Posted on 05/24/2014 3:38:24 PM PDT by Wolfie
Where The War On Pot Will Go To Die
In some states, there's an untenable mismatch between the crime and the time, but does anyone think that pot—medical or recreational—will still be illegal in 10 years?
Now that a majority of Americans—54% and climbing, according to Pew Research—believe that marijuana should be treated like beer, wine and liquor, it’s time to ask: where does the war on pot go to die?
What episode will trigger that final skirmish that kicks over the hollowed-out edifice of marijuana prohibition like the Berlin Wall? What will be the final outrage against common sense and common decency that triggers an Arab Spring for weed in these U.S.? Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia already have medical marijuana (with more to come), and full legalization has gained 13 percentage points in just the past five years.
Ironically, whatever ends the war on pot won’t happen in Colorado or Washington, which have already legalized recreational pot and have received vague promises from Attorney General Eric Holder that the feds won’t bust people and businesses who comply with state laws. Colorado is further along in the retail process than Washington (where pot shops won’t open until mid-July), and so far the only problem of note is that the state is raking in 40% more tax revenue than originally projected.
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A state can have prohibition but if cartels want to pour drugs into the state, you need fed gov to guard borders and stop the flood.
Oh please - give it a rest - we are discussing legalization of marijuana - which anyone can grow in their basement or backyard or backyard.
As to the feds guarding the borders - a fat lot of good they are doing right now, aren’t they?
Yeah, drugs did all that. Delusional much? So what you’ve described was what we were dealing with before the government outlawed drugs but now that they’re illegal none of that happens, is that right? Have you given this any thought
It’s not an either/or situation, my stoner friend. I didn’t say that there were no problems now. But with drugs illegal, most places nowadays are pretty safe.
With you libertarians in charge, hard core drugs would be everywhere.
At least there is some border security now. So you favor opening the borders entirely?
Project much? I suggest you brush up on your debate tactics and NOT by watching MSNLSD.
Clearly you’re not a careful reader. As I clearly indicated earlier,I use no intoxicants of any kind except for black coffee. Forty years ago I had an occasional beer but find the effect unpleasant. I don’t even use prescribed pain killers as aspirin is just about as good, for me anyway.
The real effect of the war on some drugs is the destruction of constitutional liberty and the enrichment of the cartels. As you’ve demonstrated a clear inability to read carefully, I don’t expect you to be able to understand that.
Hmmmm. Let’s consider the evidence...black coffee ... aspirin...pain killers. Can you make available the results of your most recent drug test?
Nonsense. Will YOU use drugs if they're legalized? Is anyone deterred by a small risk of arrest but undeterred by addiction and death?
Needle park. Needle park. Needle park. Needle park. Needle park.
It will be everywhere if heroin is cheap and available. Fun times.
Hello again my sky-high Colorado friend.
To answer your question about the Randian nirvana. Heroin would be sold like slurpees at Seven Elevens everywhere. Lots of kids would try that. Only a master libertarian logician would deny that reality.
Never lived there.
Heroin would be sold like slurpees at Seven Elevens everywhere.
Laughable rubbish - is hard liquor sold like Slurpees at Seven Elevens everywhere?
A true libertarian wants freedom everywhere. Why such onerous rules on hard liquor?
Laughable rubbish - is hard liquor sold like Slurpees at Seven Elevens everywhere?
A true libertarian wants freedom everywhere.
Then I'm not a true libertarian - I support reasonable local regulation of mind-altering substances like alcohol.
Why such onerous rules on hard liquor?
I don't consider liquor licenses onerous. If you do, take it up with your local legislature. A blanket ban - now, that's onerous ... and a goldmine for criminals.
I'm beginning to have thoughts like there's no point in regulating vices in a society where most choices don't have consequences. Then, when something goes wrong, everyone loses their rights. The movie IDIOCRACY isn't sci-fi satire; it's prophecy.
I have a really tough question. What's going to happen to young children in places where marijuana is legalized? What happens then when parents smoke in the presence of children, and the kids inhale the smoke? In places where it isn't legal, the children can be removed from that environment.
It's not just the marijuana. It's the legal mind-altering drugs. It's the pesticides and poisonous food additives. It's that most bodies are under a constant barrage from medicatons and vaccinations. Nobody can possibly know the long-term effects and the effects from various combinations.
What are possible long term effects? The end of free will? The inability to make life-sustaining decisions? I don't see how it can end well.
So we make heroin like hard liquor, readily available to kids and adults alike. Once hooked, a lifetime of fighting addiction. Staggering around in a daze, desperate and cold-blooded, abandoning and destroying families, ,leeching off welfare, robbing pedestrians, and breaking into houses. In every neighborhood.
Is that the world you want?
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