Posted on 05/20/2014 3:58:30 AM PDT by Biggirl
When anything is labeled as “free”, corruption is already part of the “free” DNA.
How long do people wait to get foodstamps?
Irony
Having to self pay for surgery to remove a 35 yr old piece of schrapnel the Army left in 35 years ago after a tumor decided to grow around it. Couldn’t get a VA surgery date less than 11 months out.
> How long do people wait to get foodstamps?
If you’re white and conservative don’t even bother applying. I know so many people that really had needs that applied and then were told they would get less than $50 in food stamps when their income was very low. Everytime they were interviewed by minority workers. Something just ain’t right in the AFDC offices... If James O’Keefe we’re to do some undercover videos exposing the reverse racism and corruption that some of the white applicants have to endure there would be some very pissed off folks...
Obamacare is a government medical system.
What are the models for it?
Certainly not some brilliant creation Obama pulled out of his community organizing experience. He shows no talent at coming up with ideas to take care of others. I doubt he did any work worth anything that would provide him with ability to come up with a great system.
The model is socialized medicine. And it’s what his minions came up with. Totally unmotivated to do anything of worth, while he was playing golf and fitting his bike helmet.
Military medicine is socialized medicine. The VA is very similar, and it depends on people caring for and about the vets.
Many of the doctors and nurses in both systems are wonderful. May can get away with not being so.
The problem here is in administration. They are told from Washington to decrease patient load and they are rewarded for doing so.
The advantage the VA and DOD med systems have over Euro style systems is that they have medical personnel educated in a privately competitive market. DOD has enough resources to afford proper medical preparation and to pay for these professionals.
What people see is that the military medical system is bad because it’s military.
No. Our military is the best in the world. We have the best pilots in the world. Parts of the military medical system work very well. So what’s wrong with the VA?
It’s the system that is expected to work which is designed for numbers. Caregivers try to work around it and within it, but when the system is designed to decrease resource utilization, patient care is a low priority.
And death panels are very definitely a part of that. Can we call it that? No. WE make fun of Sarah Palin for her common sense and correct assertion, but that doesn’t get rid of the fact that there are death panels. And we are the abortion loving country, which elects high government officials under the guise that they take care of women, by allowing them to kill their babies. 54 million so far.
These are well trained and educated people taking care of the vets, whom they and we all care about.
Obamacare is the same type of system. The difference between obamacare, and it’s coming, omits the private sector, it saps individual resources, it destroys the insurance industry and it will not pay for nor even have the capacity to pay for proper education of medical providers.
Does anyone think that hospital administrators will not be under the instruction to reduce patient load?
Assuming that, how will they do so? There will be such a serious reduction in caregivers, and even compared with the VA, there will be many less caregivers, that healing people and getting them off the rosters that way will be a non entity.
Administrators will care about patients in that system so much less than VA personnel care about their patient population.
Then you bring in those who take without giving back, most particular to the US population and the opposite of Vets.
they alone will sap the system before it gets off the ground, which it cannot, because it was designed by unmotivated bureaucrats who can’t even put together a website, let alone the VA system which has multiple entities including well constructed buildings, hardened facilities.
If the government had taken over the privatization of the school system, as they certainly have the medical system, and read this in two years when either some savior has come in to repeal it, or we are all paying $3,000 per month for the privilege of seeing some PA once a year in a decrepit building somewhere far off, then school vouchers would not be discussed. There would be no charter nor private schools.
“I went to UNC Chapel Hill, got into a clinical trial, and was cured in less than two months.”
I live in Chapel Hill.... Really excellent hospital. They may call Durham, with three big hospitals (Duke, Durham VA and Durham Regional) the City of Medicine, but the best care is right down the road.
Friends of mine who work at both Duke and the Durham VA went to UNC for their cancer treatment....
You seen a film of obammy swinging a golf club?
for all the time he spends doing it he still looks like a 7 year old girl swinging one. The pus waaaaa
Your post makes a lot of sense. WE can point to the VA being a large government run system as a cause for a lot of problems.
The government responds to the public calling for care for PTSD.
Retired field officers with post retiree professions are eligible for care, I guess, if they have service connected disabilities.
Here’s another aspect - I am aware of a particular clinic at the VA. THey run classes for patients who suffer from a particular chronic illness. Every two weeks they have an elaborate seminar with all kinds of well seasoned educated medical providers set up for 35 or so patients. They are to follow through by taking care of themselves where they can, and to call on community resources.
Every two weeks they find what every other such clinic in the VA finds, according to the operating instruction- that 50% of patients show up.
Same with appointments. Patients No Show constantly with no sanctions worth anything. There’s nothing that can be done. THey are threatened with being cut off but the VA won’t cut off vets from care.
Patients themselves, in this exemplary case, abuse resources tremendously.
It makes one otherwise healthy, take care of yourself kind of guy going In for bloodwork look like a contributor.
So it is that it is a huge system. And it needs some tweaking, to say the least, but it will continue, so the Pres and his minions can figure it out, or the next pres can do so.
But Obamacare is this system on steroids.
Oh, I correct anyone who says something is free.
It was sold as such, and it got into the language. Medicare, wic, food stamps are the worst. And VEts are silly to say it, as they don’t get anything for free, they worked for it.
Now that the debt is $17 trillion, it needs to stop being referred to as free.
Bookmarked for later read.
The VA does have financial means testing, as well as what sort of service the veteran has rendered (combat, etc), that determine the range of benefits he/she can receive.
I wonder if I’d still be waiting for a phone call from the VA if I’d asked for an appointment because I had a swollen lymph node. Hell, I know I would. My PCP retired last summer and I still haven’t been assigned a new one. Oh well.
The VA hospital uses a lot of Duke Medical School Residency Students. They are good students, but they lack the experience and are so overloaded with work and studies that the reality is they just can’t give the quality of care of an experienced seasoned professional.
In addition, the rotations and changes cause lack of continuity, especially over the July 1 residency student assignment changes. Never, ever go to the hospital in the evening or on the weekend in July as that is when all the newbies cover the off hours!
There is a means test for VA coverage already. You can’t earn over $32 or 33,000 a years to qualify. If your former co-worker earns too much money, he’s gaming the system somehow. If he has other third-party insurance, they should be sharing in the costs He appears to being doing what he’s doing because he can get away with it. Maybe he doesn’t ever look at himself in the mirror in the morning or else he’d be too ashamed too take for free, what he could otherwise afford to pay for.
It’s people like him that screw it up for the ones that really qualify and need the coverage for their healthcare.
I have fought the VA for over 22 years on disability. They finally gave in some and gave me disability on three military service related injuries that they had denied before. However, I am still fighting for the others that they continue to deny. I have a long road to go. When you file something with VA you might as well forget it for a least a year to 18 months. That is how long it takes them to get too your claim. Then it is another 6 months or more of haggling. Then they make their decision. You fine your appeal. It has taken them 9 months to act on my case so that I can file my appeal to the VA board of appeal in Sodom on the Potomac. From past experience, it will take that mob any where between 3 to 5 years to act. They are mostly hoping I will die soon. I am getting too much of THEIR money and they hope I die so they can get it back.
You can go to the Urgent Care clinic anytime you have a problem that demands treatment before you can get a regular appointment with your PCP. Depending on their workload and the severity of your problem, be prepared to spend the day there waiting your turn. They do an initial screening and then a more specific triage of your problem. If you are really sick and need care right away, you will be seen right away. I went once when I had severe bronchial pneumonia and couldn’t stop coughing or fall sleep at night but I wasn’t dying. I spent 6 hours waiting my turn in the rotation, going to get a chest x-ray and then getting to see the physician assistant and getting my meds at the pharmacy. I didn’t think it was unreasonable at all.
But there are some with an ingrown toenail that will moan, groan, and complain all day, irritatingly loud because they think deserve better. They are the perennial negative people of the world that we all know and ruin the experience for everyone else. I on the other hand, took my wait in stride and watched TV and read a book, knowing I couldn’t get to see anyone sooner anywhere else in the medical system.
It helps to count your blessings.
Active Duty/Retiree ping.
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