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Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum Call for Higher Minimum Wage
Townhall ^ | 05/11/2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 05/11/2014 12:03:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the past few days, three candidates who ran for the last Republican presidential nomination, including nominee Mitt Romney, have endorsed a higher minimum wage.

Yahoo!Finance asks Mitt Romney Calls for Higher Minimum Wage. Does it Matter?

Mitt Romney, the GOP presidential nominee in 2012, called on Republicans Friday to raise the minimum wage, going against the congressional leadership of his own party.
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"I think we ought to raise it, because frankly, our party is all about more jobs and better pay, and I think communicating that is important to us," Mr. Romney said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

In recent days, two other Republican presidential hopefuls from 2012 – former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania – have also called for a minimum wage hike. The trend may signal that in presidential politics, some Republicans see the issue as a way to soften the party’s image across a broad electorate.

On MSNBC, Romney linked his support for a higher minimum wage to the GOP’s effort to reach out to working Americans, including Hispanics. Romney lost the Hispanic vote to President Obama, 71 percent to 27 percent.

“I also believe that key for our party is to be able to convince the people who are in the working population, particularly the Hispanic community, that our party will help them get better jobs and better wages,” Romney said.

Matter in What Sense?

The senate has blocked debate on the issue. It needs 60 votes to advance but only has 52. The fact that Mitt Romney flip-flopped twice (from for, to against, to for) does not change Senate math.

Nonetheless, Romney's flip-flopping does raise this question once again: From Obamacare to war-mongering to minimum wage, what real differences were there between Obama and Romney?

About all I can come up with is war-mongering and abortion. On the war-mongering front I remain convinced that if Romney had won the US would have attacked Iran and we would be engaged in a hopeless trade war with China.

Non-Differences

There are probably a few other differences, but arguably not on anything the President can directly control. Here are some distinct non-differences.


The 2012 election offered a classic choice of Tweedle-Dum vs. Tweedle-Dee. I said so at the time and numerous Republicans attacked me for that view.

Perhaps Republicans can see the truth now, but I doubt it. Self-assessment by bureaucrats and political parties is about zero.

Hopefully the 2016 election provides a real choice. Don't count on it. However, you can count on bluster, huffing and puffing, finger-pointing, and name calling even if there are few real differences.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014issues; communism; minimumwage; pawlenty; pennsylvania; ricksantorum; romney; romneyfascist; santormfascist; santorum; santorumtruthfile; uselessidiots
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To: SeekAndFind
And how do you do that short of making it illegal to do so?

Eliminate the minimum wage.

21 posted on 05/11/2014 1:05:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think we ought to raise it, because frankly, our party is all about more jobs and better pay

Why would you think that raising the minimum wage is compatible with more jobs? The only way both could happen at the same time is if inflation is excessive, and that hurts everybody.

22 posted on 05/11/2014 1:20:54 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: SeekAndFind

Tarrifs.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 1:24:27 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; seekthetruth; ThomasMore; Bob Ireland; ...
This is good. The GOPe possible presidential candidates are beginning to think together, blabber together and cling together. They are outing themselves early on by going public on all their liberal hopes, dreams and plans....giving us time to identify who they are and what they are...all of which gives us plenty of time to plot counter-attacks on their idiotic ideology.

Study their words carefully. Remember..."Know Thy Enemy"

("Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories"....Sun Tzu, Chinese General, 760 AD....from his writing "The Art of War")

Leni

24 posted on 05/11/2014 1:25:55 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You’re right. It’s not just business issue, it’s also a national security issue. Those who support exporting manufacturing are traitors.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 1:27:43 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where’s McCain when you need him.


26 posted on 05/11/2014 1:30:15 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: freedomfiter2

I agree.

I especially agree, now that China has become as large as America.

America cannot continue to send manufacturing abroad. We need to bring it back to America.

America is now in a competition, with China. Unless we bring back manufacturing to America, that competition will not go well at all.

Bring back American manufacturing, to America.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 1:32:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SeekAndFind

...and just like that Rick Santorum has dropped out of contention for 2016.


28 posted on 05/11/2014 1:33:04 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum Call for Higher Minimum Wage

What say you, Jeb? Do you agree? Is it "an act of love?"

Jeb? Just knock once for "Yes" and twice for "No"

29 posted on 05/11/2014 1:35:29 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Mariner
We must tariff every product that comes from any country that does not have absolutely free trade themselves.

Every stinkin' one of them.


Amen!

Otherwise, it amounts to economic surrender on our part.
30 posted on 05/11/2014 1:41:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Well libfree it’s nice to see that you’re a liberal non-free market Romney type voter, maybe this is the wrong site for you.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 1:42:12 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: texhenry

the term “Fair Tax” is an oxymoron, there is no way a tax is fair.


32 posted on 05/11/2014 1:43:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: SeekAndFind
And how do you do that short of making it illegal to do so?

I'm not against that...

33 posted on 05/11/2014 1:47:12 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: billphx
Reduce the corporate taxes, we are about the highest in the world

How is that going to help the American low wage earner???

34 posted on 05/11/2014 1:49:18 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: olezip
Maybe they can use the economic analysis to identify how business expenses can be lowered by decreased taxes, decreased regulation to provide the additional income needed to pay higher wages for the same work.

You don't really believe that if businesses have more money in their pockets they are going to hand it over to their hourly employees, do you???

35 posted on 05/11/2014 1:53:40 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum? Pawlenty? Romney?

Anyone out there believe in MARKET FORCES????


36 posted on 05/11/2014 2:07:08 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: napscoordinator; All
I am not positive that this [higher minimum wage] loses jobs....once again the Republicans have to lie and say it causes jobs to be lose which is not true at all. In fact most places don’t even pay with minimum wage but more.

Wow. God bless you for being a Republican, but ... Where to start. Just ... jaw-dropping, wow.

Raising the minimum wage necessarily loses jobs, the same way that raising standards for admission necessarily loses applicants.

I'm self-employed and set my own wage. When minimum wage goes up, I must raise my wage accordingly to avoid an effective wage decrease. If I don't, I must do more jobs for the same amount of money, which on the balance sheet pencils out as jobs lost.

Raising the minimum wage is anti-capitalist and anti-free markets. It is also the root cause of many afflictions. It is a major component of illegal immigration, because our "minimum wage" is a heck of a lot of money to someone fully capable of doing the work who lives in a cardboard village. Plenty of 'em in Mexico. It is a major component of bad work ethic and flawed values in teens: without minimum wage, the machine shop or garage on the corner, or the homebuilder up the street, could employ and mentor countless bright but non-academic kids into exceptionally challenging and productive life paths, but minimum wage goes a long way to making it a losing proposition. Kids remain unemployed and retain an entitlement ethic with regard to wage.

37 posted on 05/11/2014 2:22:48 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Iscool
You don't really believe that if businesses have more money in their pockets they are going to hand it over to their hourly employees, do you???

Democrats, loan sharks, gangsters do not care where you get the money to pay for what they perceive that you owe them; their increased spending, increased taxes, increased regulation, increased wages. They assume that you have or can get the extra money out of your excessive and obscene profits.

It is time for the lawmakers to stop mindlessly increasing spending, do you not agree? Or do you like the idea of micro managing businesses to make sure that they do not make "too much money?"

38 posted on 05/11/2014 2:24:31 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: Mariner

None of the three fit to be in the GOP.

Are you kidding? The GOP is exactly where they belong.

What these idiots just can’t get through their head is they’ll never get that 47%. I thought Romney had that figured out but apparently not. The republicans can raise the minimum wage to $100 an hour and grant amnesty to 20,000,000 Mexicans and they’ll still get no more that 30% of the Hispanic vote.


39 posted on 05/11/2014 2:25:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Sans-Culotte; Mariner
"None of the three fit to be in the GOP."
Bears repeating: 'None of the three fit to be in the GOP.'

Either that, or WE are not fit to be in the GOP. If Romney fits the definition of "Republican," then ... what's the point of supporting "Republican"?

What are we going to do when one of them gets the GOP presidential nomination in 2016?

40 posted on 05/11/2014 2:27:33 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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