Vermont, the state that elected Bernie Sanders to the U.S. Senate in 2006 after serving 16 years in the House of Representatives.
Posted on 05/10/2014 10:27:02 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
Vermont has always had such a bent. Study their early history and it reveals the same old gar-bage.
Article V ping.
The Birchers really get it wrong on the Article V movement, as their infantile “con-con” snark indicates. It is the only way to take our country back.
The problem is, no one is enforcing it.
Vermont, the state that elected Bernie Sanders to the U.S. Senate in 2006 after serving 16 years in the House of Representatives.
Exactly. There's some Birchers in my Tea party group and they can never tell me HOW they will go about enforcing it while at the same time asking me how we would enforce any new amendments. They also say a convention would destroy the constitution while at the same time saying the constitution is being destroyed by Washington, D.C.! Apparently, no explanation is necessary on their side while they dismiss the explanations given by the Article V proponents.
It all sounds suspiciously like progressive disinformation and propaganda to me. They are advocating "business as usual" and that helps only the status-quo and the establishment elite in D.C.
And why would we expect these statist administrations to enforce even more conservative amendments?
Because the ultra-left has wanted this convention for as long as I can remember. I do not know what brand of Kool-Aid mark has been drinking, but this convention will see the complete undoing of our liberty.
I lost all respect for Mark when he failed to report on the BC issue in any meaningful manner, in fact he derided those who brought it up as if he was afraid, so he is either a coward or a moron.
Change the Constitution through the process which already exists: remove or add amendments without calling for an Article V Resolution.
Calling for a what would essentially be a Constitutional Congress is like going to war — once that happens, you cannot predict or control the outcome.
I believe it would destroy our Constitution as it now exists, and am opposed to an Article V Resolution action.
You are exactly right—the argument about enforcing the amendments is fixed right in the amendments. The amendments that can get the support of the states and citizens to be enacted are those that shift power back toward the states and away from the fed govt. The fix to the problem of enforcement is clear—the fed won’t support citizens’ rights but the closer power gets to the citizens, the more those rights are likely to be protected.
Having Vermont propose an amendment that shifts power from non-govt groups to the fed govt (which is what it does)is what Vermont does. Vermont is more like Sweden than a state of the US. It no longer fits in the US and its interests will not have the support of the rest of the US. They might as well propose an amendment that maple syrup be legal tender. They are merely jokes to thinking people.
Translation: Business-as-usual. Elect more RINOs.
"I believe it would destroy our Constitution
The Constitution IS BEING DESTROYED! TODAY! RIGHT NOW! THIS MINUTE!
The status-quo is not the answer. If it's risky, so be it. It's time to take a risk.
And I wouldn't put it past them!
They don't need a convention. They're doing it anyway. Every day.
boy the libtarss hate Citizens United~!
[ The Birchers really get it wrong on the Article V movement, as their infantile “con-con” snark indicates. It is the only way to take our country back. ]
Oh I love the Bircher snark of “Well they are already not following the Constitution, so what difference does it make” as if they were Hillary testifying on Ben-Ghazi.
Many if not all of the “Liberty Amendments” would be very hard to ignore like the Term Limits and the repeal of EPA statutes that the states effective veto.
And ALL of the amendments are very much of the “Limit the power of government” type which are very much the opposite of the “Progressive Amendments”.
I see the Article V as a Test/Exit Ramp, if we cannot pass the test or take the exit from the cliff then we deserve to go over the cliff or break apart as a country.
[ “Change the Constitution through the process which already exists”
Translation: Business-as-usual. Elect more RINOs.
“I believe it would destroy our Constitution
The Constitution IS BEING DESTROYED! TODAY! RIGHT NOW! THIS MINUTE!
The status-quo is not the answer. If it’s risky, so be it. It’s time to take a risk. ]
The Constitution is already having a convention it is called the supreme court.
I agree the “The Great one” we need term limits on Supreme Court judges and a mechanism for the states to Void moronic decisions set by the Supreme Court.
I like Levin, but it looks to me like a country that could elect Obama a second time could very well screw up a Constitutional Convention. It’s not like we would have an exclusive rewrite. The Left would get so much crap in there it wouldn’t be funny. Entirely too risky. Better to insist the existing constitution be followed and the Federal government be reduced in size and scope.
George Soros — the financier of global fascism — is pumping millions of dollars into the same Article V campaign that is being promoted by Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and other popular conservative spokesmen.
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Interesting. This “George Soros/pumping millions into the Art V campaign” meme is quite popular. Looky here how many time/places they’ve used it....
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