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Cliven Bundy Makes Ridiculously Racist Comments, Says Blacks 'Better Off' As Slaves
Business Insider ^ | 04/24/2014 | BRETT LOGIURATO

Posted on 04/24/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Scotswife

Bundy is his own worst enemy. He needs to stick to speaking about his own land issue. The only reason that understood what he was saying is because I had just had a similar conversation with my husband. I had been thinking about the similarities between the problems facing the tribes and the urban Blacks and the roots of the problems in government dependence.

We had recently visited the beautiful Olympic peninsula in WA, where I could not avoid thinking about how the local tribes must have resented the culture clash of the arrival of White people. The WA coast is still relatively un touched by Whites because of the weather, but the rest of WA was just as beautiful and was home to many tribes.


181 posted on 04/25/2014 11:13:04 AM PDT by Eva
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To: xzins; NFHale
RE :”Actually, I’m glad he made the Mexican comments. It demonstrated to me that he isn’t racist. He was very accepting of illegals.”

Thinking about it some more its obvious to me that he brought up the Mexicans for that purpose, to tell the audience that he is no racist, but that those who are not dedicated to his cause (probably most of America) will interpret that as the opposite.

That Praising Mexicans and sounding very critical of blacks (under the guise of observations) as a group is just more evidence of it.

It sounds like “I am not racist, our kids nanny is black and she does a great job”

I don't see it working.

182 posted on 04/25/2014 12:15:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs; xzins

SOL, On that, you and I definitely agree.


183 posted on 04/25/2014 1:05:12 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs; xzins

From my reply to Skeeter a few posts back:

“Racist” is an overused word, and I won’t buy that product.

If Bundy were to pull out a Klan hood and robe like that Esteemed Democrat Senator Robert Byrd...

...or, if he suddenly decides that he was an ardent admirer of the racist Nazis - like that Esteemed Democrat Joe Kennedy back in his day....

...or if he decides that he supports racist Nazi Gun Control laws SO much that he writes them into law - like that Esteemed Democrat Senator Thomas Dodd did in GCA 1968...

...well, THEN I’ll call him a racist.


184 posted on 04/25/2014 1:08:37 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; xzins

That was all I was getting at, not anything deeper than that, but his comments about illegals were fun to bring up here given the temperature on that issue here.

Apparently Bohner was making fun of his members for opposing immigration reform, heard Mark Levin ranting about it yesterday


185 posted on 04/25/2014 1:11:13 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: NFHale; xzins
RE :”“Racist” is an overused word, and I won’t buy that product.”

Technically those on FNC say his comments were racist, not him, while those on MSNBC call him and his supporters 'white supremacists', not the specific term 'racist'.

But speaking of overusing the ‘racist’ word, I still love this video. Still makes me laugh.

Interview Why she loves welfare, food stamps, and Obamacare

186 posted on 04/25/2014 1:19:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs; xzins

“...Technically those on FNC say his comments were racist, not him, while those on MSNBC call him and his supporters ‘white supremacists’, not the specific term ‘racist’...”

And my response to them, also earlier posted, is “F*** ‘em”.

(Yeah, I know, I’m crude, but I don’t believe in being polite to our enemies).


187 posted on 04/25/2014 1:30:37 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Eva

I guess I can’t even relate to his land issue. This arrangement between Nevada & the Feds occurred prior to Bundy’s family setting up a ranch.
I can’t even see where land was “taken” from him.

Now that cattle have been killed - that is definitely a loss to him, and needless waste.
I understand Bundy built a water system & roadways.

It still seems these things should be able to be settled upon in court - because I don’t “get” what is gained at the end of an armed standoff.

When all is said & done - he still doesn’t own the land.


188 posted on 04/25/2014 3:08:39 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: sickoflibs

Nope. That’s not it. I’ve listened both to the original and his explanations. He’s just a good ole country boy. His explanations rang true to me.

This is nothing more than old ways meets new ways.


189 posted on 04/25/2014 3:10:18 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: sickoflibs

I believe most - but not all - functional blacks leave the inner city and move on to a better and brighter future. I don’t ‘get’ your question...


190 posted on 04/25/2014 3:25:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on white middle class men...)
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To: SeekAndFind

People should learn to opine only on what they really know about. This man is an expert on one side of the BLM/rancher dispute. He should address that, but why wander off to subjects not in his bailiwick?


191 posted on 04/25/2014 5:02:49 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Scotswife

No, Bundy’s family had been ranching in the area and grazing their cattle on on the open range since the 1800s.

What you have to understand is that the far left hates cattle, they hate ranchers and have been doing everything that they can to limit cattle ranches. Heck, they hate all animal farming. They would like us to all become vegans.

I don’t think that the specifics of the Bundy war with the BLM are what is compelling people to defend Bundy, though. What people are reacting to is the over reaction by the government to a pushback against the nationalization of state land. People in the west have been trying to push back at the government land grabs all over the west for the past nine years, but the movement wasn’t getting much attention beyond lawn signs on private property. When people saw the military style attack on a private rancher, they saw the possibility of the military tactics being used against them.


192 posted on 04/27/2014 11:41:34 AM PDT by Eva
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