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US Communists Shill for Russia Over Ukraine
Trevour Loudon ^ | 04/18/14 | Trevor Loudon

Posted on 04/19/2014 7:19:33 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

US Communists Shill for Russia Over Ukraine Submitted by Trevor on April 18, 2014 – 3:08 am EST

Brian Becker

Two groups have been most actively supporting “there is no such thing as an ex-Chekist,” Vladimir Putin’s naked aggression in the Ukraine.

They are Western communists, who hate the West and still see Russia as a force for socialism and anti-Americanism, and some naive Western “conservatives” like commentator Pat Buchanan and actor Steven Segal, who seem to believe that Comrade Putin is a closet Christian bent on defending Western values and saving Europe from the Islamic hordes. These naifs seem to have no idea that Mr. Putin’s KGB/FSB comrades have long manipulated those Islamic hordes against the West and have attacked our values at every opportunity for more than 90 years.

The communists must be laughing up their sleeves as they dupe self deluding “conservatives” like Buchanan and Segal into cheerleading their own destruction.

Here’s one such Western communist — Brian Becker of the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

Interviewed on Kremlin propaganda channel RT (formerly Russia Today), Comrade Becker does a splendid job of obscuring the truth and spreading lies and disinformation on Moscow’s behalf.

Link to youtube vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2yUn30Xm8


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; communistpartyusa; communists; kremlin; putin; russia; sovietunion; trevorloudon; trevourloudon; ukrainecrisis; uscommunists
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To: cripplecreek

“All I know is that we’re broke and have our own problems to deal with.”

Plus, our military doesn’t have a CIC....


81 posted on 04/19/2014 8:58:34 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: wetphoenix; 1rudeboy

The Kremlin’s persecution of non-Orthodox churches is actually quite wide spread. Rudeboy was only providing one particular example, with one particular pretext. Pentecostals, baptists, and other churches, are being persecuted in Russia. The same is occuring in Crimea, wherein Catholic Priests have been abducted, intimidated, released, and then charged with silly crimes.


82 posted on 04/19/2014 8:58:42 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

You forgot to mention George Soros.


83 posted on 04/19/2014 8:58:55 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Nobody can make the case that Putin is a Communist or that he is ruining his country or that Russia is a threat to any country let alone to the United States.

This is a case easily made. But if you are ever to make the case with me, you will have to remember your history, and not see the present day as disconnected from yesterday. Once you do that, it will become much easier for you.

84 posted on 04/19/2014 9:00:49 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 1rudeboy

~I merely was pointing-out a contradiction in your statement.~

What contradiction? I’m ready to look from your viewpoint of Russian administration as a ‘fake Christian’. It still looks better than any Western administration banning crosses at public spaces, yet allowing muslim women to put a veiled photos on driver’s license.


85 posted on 04/19/2014 9:02:10 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: 1rudeboy
Since you brought him up here is a pic of the WWII Nazi collaborator with his meatpuppet, Barry Soetoro

You can almost see him pulling the string.

86 posted on 04/19/2014 9:03:34 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
This is a case easily made.

Then make it.

87 posted on 04/19/2014 9:04:27 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: wetphoenix
but I don’t see it as a big deal and of any American interest.

It is of interest to NATO, and we are part of NATO, you seem determined to pretend that we are not a part of Western security and a member of NATO.

Under this president, America may take yours and Obama's position of mostly doing nothing, but we have to do it as a policy and deliberately, not just fade away.

We, the American people, need to know that it is the new policy until this president can be replaced with a stronger leader.

88 posted on 04/19/2014 9:04:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 1rudeboy

LOL.


89 posted on 04/19/2014 9:05:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: wetphoenix

Listen, I understand that English might be your second language, but when you state that something is “a better deal than attacking Christianity on all fronts,” you’d better be aware of how Christianity is being attacked on all fronts.


90 posted on 04/19/2014 9:06:50 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Read the thread!


91 posted on 04/19/2014 9:07:29 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Thanks for a lesson, I would.


92 posted on 04/19/2014 9:08:59 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The old “Cold War” East/West prism just no longer seems to apply. With America sliding into one-party socialist banana-republic status, and embracing such cultural degeneracy as fag-marriage, dope and open-borders, it’s just a whole different dynamic.


93 posted on 04/19/2014 9:10:22 PM PDT by greene66
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To: wetphoenix
What contradiction? I’m ready to look from your viewpoint of Russian administration as a ‘fake Christian’. It still looks better than any Western administration banning crosses at public spaces, yet allowing muslim women to put a veiled photos on driver’s license.

In the long run the state/fake chritianity, is the most dangerous and corrupt.

America was founded by people fleeing that, a religious revival here will be simple and honest Christianity, not what is operating in Russia under KGB operatives and Putin and as a willing partner of the state.

94 posted on 04/19/2014 9:15:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: greene66

Which would lead to an interesting discussion: is anything really different, or are you simply trying to appear intelligent? Please elaborate.


95 posted on 04/19/2014 9:16:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
"Isolationist card"?

Your democrat cliche slinging makes my point for me.

I haven't seen a single FReeper make the sort of exaggerated claim you attribute across the board to those who disagree with you. More tactics straight from the democrat playbook.

Those who characterize others as "socks puppets" and "Putinistas" for wanting to limit ourselves to our own strategic interests rather than helping the EU save face are the ones on FR behaving like shills.

Not a single one of the whole mudslinging, "play the isolationist card" cliche slinging, gang of dolts has made or can make a solid case for why the Ukraine is vital to our national interests.

"Don't start with me"?? LOL, Ok, Mommy, Daddy warned us about how you get this time of the month.

96 posted on 04/19/2014 9:16:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Read the thread!

I have read it. No sale. I'd like to see some evidence of Putin's Communism in action, where he is implementing the Ten Planks or destroying the two parent family unit or removing Christianity from public life.

97 posted on 04/19/2014 9:17:49 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: greene66

~The old “Cold War” East/West prism just no longer seems to apply. With America sliding into one-party socialist banana-republic status, and embracing such cultural degeneracy as fag-marriage, dope and open-borders, it’s just a whole different dynamic.~

Bingo. And it is a real tragedy, not only for America but for the whole world.
I think an idea is to force your way back from the Great Society to Yes, We can! And it not Russian expansionism and ‘fake Christianity’ which is the obstacle.


98 posted on 04/19/2014 9:17:58 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Rashputin

Listen, just because you are butthurt because we had words on a thread you do not care to mention, is really not my problem. Have mother make you some warm milk.


99 posted on 04/19/2014 9:19:41 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: greene66

Then Russian active measures on the West has succeeded.


100 posted on 04/19/2014 9:19:59 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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