Posted on 04/17/2014 9:15:11 AM PDT by fishtank
Are there out-of-sequence fossils that are problematic for evolution?
by Gary Bates and Lita Cosner
Published: 17 April 2014 (GMT+10)
In his debate with Ken Ham, (the ‘science guy’) Bill Nye dogmatically claimed, and asked Ham, to cite any out of order fossils in the geologic record, because if there were any, it would be problematic for the evolutionary model. Due to the seeming confidence of Nye’s assertion (and that it was not answered during the debate), many have contacted us for an answer on this single question. In addition, while out on ministry our speakers have mentioned how this question has often come up. At a recent event, Gary Bates encountered a Christian university student who said this question was being used as a club by lecturers and professors to ‘beat him with’. It appears that this seeming ‘knockout punch’ argument by Nye is being used as a ‘great’ falsification of the creation model.
>>So, based on that remark I’m gonna guess you buy into AGW.<<
You would be 100% wrong. AGW meets exactly zero Scientific Theory criteria. That is why there are scientists that loudly point it out.
How is that relevant to the fact of evolution being a bunch of pseudoscientific bullshit?
Just because the conditions I alluded to are man-made doesn’t mean other similar conditions don’t occur in nature.
I tend to think mathematically. I can conceive of local fitness maxima that are not global. For example, you might have traits tailored to a particular local environment which tend to evolve at the expense of some others which might more often be useful. “More often useful”is what I think of as globally optimized. Do you look at it differently?
I can see two things happening here. One is that a species cut down to a small area is vastly more susceptible to accidental extinction due to floods, hard winters, disease or whatever. Two is the fact that the first time ordinary dogs, cats, and rats get introduced into one of Darwin’s island paradises, many of the exotic creatures get wiped out.
Alright then, how old do you think the dinosaurs were? Or do you believe there were dinosaurs?
Sobering thought on “young Earth” theory: 4000 years (or 6000, or 10,000 how you squint at it) is 40 one-hundred year lifespans (or 60, or 100). That’s not long, especially when you’re pushing a half century yourself.
And yet all the physical evidence shows no evidence of mankind living for anything beyond 10k years [and even that is being generous] which is in complete agreement with the biblical account.
The link below shows just how much factual evidence evolutionary science is willfully ignoring [as they do with anything they can not explain].
101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
Well, since evolution has a great deal of objective support in the geologic record and since food geology can be easily disproven, it occurred to me that much of “Creation science” is a money scheme selling nonsense to sincere Christians.
Yes, but there’s also pockets of unusual development in remote areas. The fact that cats can wipe out lizards on an island doesn’t mean the lizards didn’t evolve.
There’s always the problem of species destruction when a new, unchecked predator is introduced into an isolated area that hasn’t reached equilibrium. Feral cats will do a number on birds... until coyotes move in. The fact that an introduced species can wreak havoc doesn’t mean (in my book) that it is “globally” better adapted.
These are specific situations, not overall proofs, one way or the other.
Most of the remaining such glyphs are stick figures although all show the dorsal spikes, but the one at Agawa Rock at Lake Superior (Massinaw) is not a stick figure image:
I'm aware that stegosaurs did not have horns... Indians have always touched those glyphs up every few decades and the horns were added by such a touch-up artist who figured a creature that size needed them, long after the animal was extinct.
http://www.cosmosincollision.com
ALL the missing links are missing... thousands and thousands of ‘em....
“Evolution has zero verifiable future predictions”
Everything has zero verifiable future predictions, barring a time machine.
My question was spawned by this statement: “Quote a from a real scientific publication’s real article...”
That argument is what the AGW crowd attempts to bludgeon us deniers with. That and the “BUT IT’S NOT PEER REVIEWED” BS.
>>That argument is what the AGW crowd attempts to bludgeon us deniers with. That and the “BUT IT’S NOT PEER REVIEWED” BS.<<
Peer review is indeed an important facet of science. Look at chemistry, physics, geology, cosmetology and all of the rest of the natural sciences (including TToE which is the basis for all immunology).
AGW is unique in that there has never been full-scale public bribery (with power and money) on both the parts of the publishers and the reviewers. I have yet to see a proper peer review of AGW (as is anyone).
The scientific method is intact and TToE meets ALL criteria for a Scientific Theory (even more completly than, say, the Theory of Gravity).
The fact science as been hijacked makes AGW closer to “Creation Science” than TToE.
The fact science as been hijacked makes AGW closer to “Creation Science” than TToE.
I find that science is just a word that describes a certain type of activity, and a lot of the “sciences” have little scientific activity to back them up. They are easy to spot. They are the politicized ones.
>>I find that science is just a word that describes a certain type of activity, and a lot of the “sciences” have little scientific activity to back them up. They are easy to spot. They are the politicized ones.<<
TToE is the most substantiated Scientific Theory in all of science. There are literally billions of internally consistent data points across multiple disciplines that can not be explained by any other Scientific Theory.
As I said, there would be no immunology without TToE (and many other scientific fields).
You want to see the importance of TToE? Start with antibiotic resistant bacteria and proceed to cancer. Without TToE there would be no tool to even evaluate these and so many more medical and physical phenomena.
I sometimes get the feeling that all in all, things are going our way, that our intellectual battle with Liberals will surely be won... but then I stumble into these threads, or perhaps I am a masochist at heart... and then all hope is lost.
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