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Asians Derail Affirmative Action In California: Repeal ban on racial preferences fails in Senate
Pajamas Media ^ | 04/14/2014 | John Rosenberg

Posted on 04/14/2014 7:33:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Verginius Rufus

Preferences are in place, not so covert. They’ve proudly admitted as much, that there were other ways to make sure “minorities” received preferential treatment. You can bet the farm that as whites become the minority anywhere on the globe, it won’t work that way anymore.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 8:33:26 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know about Hmong or Samoans, but Filipinos are pretty much caught up with whites in SAT scores and GPAs. Not up there with the Chinese or Koreans, which partly explains why Filipinos are just as underrepresented as whites are in UCs and the Ivies.


22 posted on 04/14/2014 8:35:38 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I have always thought of myself as ‘American’, never anything else.

When I was in the Marines Corps, during an inspection, standing on line with my company platoon, I was asked by a captain, an officer no less, what ‘nationality’ I was. I replied, “I’m an AMERICAN, sir.” He laughed and said, “I’ve never heard of that nationality, Marine.” I wanted to kick his fat ass right in the gut....................


23 posted on 04/14/2014 8:42:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: buwaya

FROM : COLLEGE DATA

http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=730

Ethnicity of Students from U.S.

0.2% American Indian/Alaskan Native

50.4% Asian

2.0% Black/African-American

21.0% Hispanic/Latino

3.9% Multi-race (not Hispanic/Latino)

0.1% Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander

19.3% White

3.1% Unknown

Looks like Whites are the minority in UC Irvine.

The problem with the term “Asian” is its a catch all phrase which tells us little about what country of origin they are from.

How many percent of the 51% or so Asians at UC Irvine are Chinese, Korean, Indian or Filipino? Hard to tell from the data.


24 posted on 04/14/2014 8:43:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Ted Grant

All Democrat politics are self-interest.

Asians (and by which I exclude Turks, etc) would be much better suited as Republicans. Culturally, they work hard, make good money, etc. No reason to be in the leech party.


25 posted on 04/14/2014 8:46:18 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: SeekAndFind
you’d want a public system to mirror the state’s population

I thought we wanted the best and the brightest?

26 posted on 04/14/2014 8:47:19 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: SeekAndFind

Irvine is one of the safety schools of the UC system. Its where a lot of the UC qualified (grades/class standing) but otherwise excluded kids end up. Kids with good math but poorer English among them, so higher Asian % than most.


27 posted on 04/14/2014 8:52:09 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Altura Ct.

Liberals don’t want the best and brightest.

They want quota systems.

Also, liberals talk of these issues as if it’s still 1950, and that there is rampant legally sanctioned discrimination against certain groups of people.

Liberals tend to take the position that, great progress has been made in civil rights, movement towards equal rights, etc. BUT, that there is still a long way to go.

Such talk was evident at the recent celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I suspect we’ll hear more such talk as the actual anniversary date of that law being signed, July 2nd, approaches.

No matter what the status of groups of people, liberals seem to take the position that we haven’t done enough to help allegedly disadvantaged people, and that there are lingering effects of past discrimination which have to be stamped out. This is part of the liberal playbook.


28 posted on 04/14/2014 8:52:24 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: SeekAndFind

To keep the conglomerate cult of the D party together it requires the “common enemy” and that would be whites. If whites did not exist they would create whites to make them the “common enemy”, doubt me then go to Kos where you will find the term “common enemy” thruout threads that are dealing with in party squabbles about the loot. Once nonsense like this is labeled “anti-white” its allure will fade because it won’t be seen as sophisticated thought but mere bigotry for the rabble.


29 posted on 04/14/2014 8:56:31 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Right, and even appealing brings them to the 9th Circuit, which is also stacked against the Asians.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 9:10:19 AM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: Red Badger

“I have always thought of myself as ‘American’...”

I see we have a troublemaker here! /s


31 posted on 04/14/2014 9:12:47 AM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: SgtHooper

Not long after that, my company was transferred to another unit in a re-alignment, so I never had to face that POS again....................


32 posted on 04/14/2014 9:17:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: SeekAndFind
***Presumably those Chinese American “new immigrants” are so new they have not yet learned their proper place on the progressive plantation.****

D*mned Chinese have always been a problem for Democrats.


33 posted on 04/14/2014 9:41:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In 2012 Obama got 73% of the Asian-American vote, which was 3% of the electorate along with 71% of the Latino vote which was 10% of the electorate to go along with his 93% of the black vote which was 13% of the electorate.
Whites were 72% of the electorate (the lowest percentage ever) and 39% of whites voted for Obama.
2% of the voters were in other racial categories (ie American Indians, bi-racial, etc.) and Obama got 58% of their votes.


34 posted on 04/14/2014 10:26:19 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: buwaya

Here’s last year’s incoming freshman data for UC Berkeley. It does not differ significantly from UC Irvine: 46% Asian-Pacific Islander and 26% white with 4 % who refused to state a race/ethnicity. :
http://www.dailycal.org/2012/08/23/uc-berkeley-releases-2012-2013-data-for-entering-students/


35 posted on 04/14/2014 10:53:17 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus

They are all in the ballpark, but Berkeley/UCLA (the premium schools) are lower Asian and higher white than Irvine.

UC Merced is the sump school, with much higher Hispanic pop and much lower avg SAT scores then the rest. Several Cal State schools are more competitive.


36 posted on 04/14/2014 11:12:52 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: SeekAndFind

“What also cries out even louder for explanation is why “civil rights” groups such as Chinese for Affirmative Action (CAA) and the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund (AALDEF) support affirmative action programs that so demonstrably discriminate against so many Asian Americans.”

It doesn’t take much of a brain to answer this - these groups are offshoots of the Democrat Party. They work TOTALLY AGAINST the interests of Asians (which are basically identical to the interests of whites, except that immigration is more important).

Too bad the Republican Party is too busy beating up Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and listing to their IDIOT pollsters telling them that Amnesty is a winning issue, and is TOO STUPID to figure out that they have a natural constituency here, if they would make ANY EFFORT AT ALL.


37 posted on 04/14/2014 11:37:21 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

There are currently nine Asian-Americans in Congress, one US Senator from Hawaii and eight Representatives in the House. All are Democrats.
Representative Bobby Scott of Virginia claims Asian heritage but I don’t count him.
There are also three non-voting House Delegates, all Democrats.


38 posted on 04/14/2014 12:06:36 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: BobL

True, this is a missed opportunity.

Partly its a matter of policy preferences. Immigration is a factor, but not quite in the way it has been presented. Reform of immigration along the lines of making it more like a job-application system, promptly and fairly decided, without quotas, probably would be popular. I.e., give exams like the SAT and take the top x%. Fairness would be valued, just like it is in the college app process.

Much of it is a lack of outreach and publicity. Where Asians live Republicans are not well known or well covered, particularly in Asian oriented media.

Part of it is mutual cultural unfamiliarity. The conservative white base of the Republican party generally has little to do with Asians on a personal level, and vice versa. These populations don’t have similar recreational interests for the most part. There has been little reason to talk.

Part of it is a feeling, on the Asian part, that they are resented or that they face hostility from the right. Granted this is generally a consequence of unfamiliarity and lack of personal connections, but it exists. Partly this is the result of the liberal demonization of the right, plus biased teaching in the schools that tend to exaggerate the problems of racism and the character of the country. Asians tend to come from places where there is REAL racism and group solidarity, and tend to think that the US brand is more dangerous to them than it really is.

Part of it is Asian attitudes towards authority. In general Asians will defer to the local consensus and work within it, even if it does not entirely coincide with their interests. They are well practiced with working around such problems, and even if the local politics is not entirely to their liking, better the devil they know.


39 posted on 04/14/2014 12:53:25 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SeekAndFind

California Asians just learned that they are white.


40 posted on 04/14/2014 3:45:30 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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