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Marines, Army prepare women for combat
Foxnews.com ^ | 4/13/2014

Posted on 04/13/2014 5:36:52 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

The military is taking steps to prepare women for combat roles in 2016.

The Marine Corps announced that it would give young female lieutenants who wash out of the grueling Infantry Officer Course a second shot, same as their male counterparts.

The Army is conducting a study to test just how fit a soldier has to be to engage in combat. The study involves 60 women and 100 men.

CBS News reported on both developments last week.

The Marine Corps announcement came after Marine 2nd Lt. Sage Santangelo took the Infantry Officer Court and wrote about her experience last month in an op-ed in The Washington Post. She didn’t make it past the first day and blamed the Marine Corps for a dual standard that sets up women to flunk the course.

Fifteen young women Marines have taken the course. All washed out and all but one washed out on the first day.

She wrote that male officers could retake the course if they failed, but that women could not.

The commandant of the Marine Corps ordered the change after he read her op-ed.

"I'm very humbled that he would consider my opinions and my thoughts," Santangelo, 24, told CBS. "I'm hopeful that it will help others, and I'm glad to see that he's doing that."

The Marines invited female officers to take the Infantry Officer Course in 2012. The 13-week course tests the mettle of potential infantry officers.

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KEYWORDS: militaryareadiness; militarywomen; obamalegacy; womenincombat
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL, thanks for that slippery response, it verifies the truth of post 65.


81 posted on 04/13/2014 7:18:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Thanks for showing what a persistent liar you are, with that post.


82 posted on 04/13/2014 7:19:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12
I have two aunts, now both deceased, who were career Army nurses. Both retired as full birds, and saw service in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam.

Were they alive today, they would argue vehemently against this move. Neither of them had been retired long when they began admitting women to West Point, and they both thought that was a bad idea.

83 posted on 04/13/2014 7:19:57 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: ansel12
You have yet to make a post to me related to the thread you posted.

And why do you think that is? And why do others, innocent bystanders, call you troll?

Think about it.

84 posted on 04/13/2014 7:20:31 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
The military is taking steps to prepare women for combat roles in 2016.

At first, I thought it said they were preparing women to shoot American civilians.

85 posted on 04/13/2014 7:21:04 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Always A Marine
There are no "average males" in Marine Corps infantry,

You got this covered, Sir. Semper Fi from a proud Dad of a mustang 2nd Lt who will commence TBS in June.

86 posted on 04/13/2014 7:21:34 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mark17

They could pull together a lesbian squad for that purpose, methinks.


87 posted on 04/13/2014 7:22:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Joe 6-pack; RoosterRedux

It is a form of insanity to think that women belong in the military in any large numbers.

There used to be a 2% maximum limit, for a reason.


88 posted on 04/13/2014 7:23:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Rebelbase

Joey Buttafuoco vs “Chyna”.

46 year old fat guy against 32 year old super woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuLWWDoN85E


89 posted on 04/13/2014 7:28:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: EEGator

Is that cleavage...or hair on her chest?


90 posted on 04/13/2014 7:29:40 PM PDT by moovova
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To: RoosterRedux
"The Marine Corps announced that it would give young female lieutenants who wash out of the grueling Infantry Officer Course a second shot, same as their male counterparts."

Training costs money. They don't just drop people on a whim. I don't know their exact procedures for granting a reevaluation ( second shot ) but I'm pretty sure the trainers had to cover themselves to ten decimal places when deciding not to allow the women another go. Not everyone who wants another chance gets it.

I'm also sure that word may have come down from on high that they didn't want to interfere with their decisions, but if it came down to a flip a coin situation where a woman may or may not get another chance, flip it her favor.

91 posted on 04/13/2014 7:31:42 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: RoosterRedux
That is bizarre since pullups are major part of the Crossfit regime and some women do over 100.

Back when I was in my 20s, I practiced and practiced until I was able to do one pullup. Once I met what was apparently my life goal regarding pullups, I never did another one. I practice now, but still have not successfully done another pullup.

92 posted on 04/13/2014 7:35:00 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Parmy

That is probably why they want to do it.


93 posted on 04/13/2014 7:35:03 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: centurion316

I believe that is why they are studying the actual requirements for infantry.

“CBS said commanders acknowledge many women won’t meet the new standards, but stricter testing will also disqualify some men from jobs they would have gotten automatically in the past.

Jackson says it could be a surprise for some men.”


94 posted on 04/13/2014 7:37:52 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I'm also sure that word may have come down from on high

Fact of the matter is that the Commandant was in on this from the get go - including her bypassing the chain of command and publishing her gripe in the WaPo

Her WaPo piece

95 posted on 04/13/2014 7:40:14 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Let me tell you a story. Decades ago I was a 2nd year summer lifeguard. The prevailing rule, seniority determined Head Lifeguard status. I had one year under my belt and was therefore considered Head Lifeguard by the Park Supervisor. Under me were three rookie guys. They decided that seniority should not determine Head Lifeguard status. Typical BS Guy behavior, BTW. I had a mutiny on my 1st day. I asked them how they wanted to determine Head Lifeguard status? Written Exam? Oral? They eyed me and answered a swim test. I agreed.

The park was in a borderline dangerous neighborhood. In that situation the Chicago Park District would assign a policeman as the Park Supervisor. Unbeknownst to the Rookies the Park Supervisor told me 1) because of the gang bangers I could close the pool anytime I determined that the situation called for it and 2) he wanted me to start up a swim team. In response to the Park Supervisor, I picked out kids that morning during the 1st free swim who I thought were “leaders” in the neighborhood and good swimmers.

With the Rookies standing next to me I chose these kids to judge the race and determine the winner. They got a bunch of other neighborhood kids together to see which lifeguard would win the Head Guard status. It was a 50 yard sprint. One of the kids (a 16 year old boy) started the race. I paced the big strong guys the 1st length. Then I kicked ass and was out of the water before the Rookies finished the race. I built up a lot of street cred in those 30 seconds and the Rookies lost all theirs because a girl beat their asses bad. Boys/men can be really stupid. Just sayin.

96 posted on 04/13/2014 7:54:00 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: RoosterRedux

I know some Crossfit level women who can more than withstand the rigors of Quantico.

As long as the steroids are provided I guess it’s ok.


97 posted on 04/13/2014 7:56:06 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: RoosterRedux

That is bizarre since pullups are major part of the Crossfit regime and some women do over 100.

They don’t do “pull ups” .. they do “swing ups” When I did the PFT we had someone stand in front of the pullup bars with arm out and if you swayed to much they didn’t count.

If you want to make a case for women in “combat” then get the women to compete in MMA cage fight by body weight and see what happens. I had a “judo” “self defense” instructor yap about how she could defend herself and kick a guys ass. It ended with me on restriction, her with a bloody nose, almost choked out and having an anxiety attack. It was PATHETIC..... and funny.


98 posted on 04/13/2014 8:01:30 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
They could pull together a lesbian squad for that purpose, methinks.

Yes, I doubt they would have any trouble shooting civilians, especially heterosexual males.

99 posted on 04/13/2014 8:02:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: EEGator

Nope - tats


100 posted on 04/13/2014 8:23:07 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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