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BLM ends Bundy cattle roundup, citing safety issues
MyNews3.com ^ | April 12, 2014 | KSNV MyNews3.com

Posted on 04/12/2014 11:09:47 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BUNKERVILLE (KSNV MyNews3.com) -- The gathering of rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle in northeast Clark County has been stopped by the director of the Bureau of Land Management.

The BLM announcement came as Bundy was meeting with Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie about the week-long dispute.

The BLM had been using contract cowboys to round up Bundy's 900 head of cattle that have been grazing over 600,000 square acres in northeast Clark County for more than 20 years without his payment of grazing fees.

As of Friday they had secure 389 cattle from the Gold Butte area, nearly 90 percent of them marked with the Bundy Ranch brand.

New BLM Director Neil Kornze made the following statement this morning:

"As we have said from the beginning of the gather to remove illegal cattle from federal land consistent with court orders, a safe and peaceful operation is our number one priority. After one week, we have made progress in enforcing two recent court orders to remove the trespass cattle from public lands that belong to all Americans.

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public.

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner.

Ranching has always been an important part of our nation’s heritage and continues throughout the West on public lands that belong to all Americans. This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public lands ranchers do every year. After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially."

Gov. Brian Sandoval reacted to the BLM decision with a statement.

"The safety of all individuals involved in this matter has been my highest priority," the email said. "Given the circumstances, today's outcome is the best we could have hoped for. I appreciate that the Department of the Interior and the BLM were willing to listen to the concerns of the people of Nevada."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundyranch; bunkerville; clivenbundy; harryreid; militia; neilkornze; nevada; ranchers; resolution; roundup; standoff
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To: GAFreedom

Federal laws are now enforced at whim by the likes of Holder. Manipulated at will by the likes of Reid and sons and cronies, to create federally managed lands, said land issues are imbued with environment green groups for one fetish or another. When tied to water/grazing/mineral rights, merged, auctioned off with funds kicked back to the likes of Reid—repackaged to sell off sovereign American rights to the Communist Chinese, federal appeals and rules are colored by whoever’s hands want the ‘right’ decision.

Of course the federal courts will rule as told. That’s why judges are shopped. It’s also why federal courts are only occasionally just. Justice now is a play for the imperial DC court jesters.

The feds rule as they want in ways that aggrandize federal power. Of course, they do. Laws are rules, which many times fade from view against what Justice is.


141 posted on 04/13/2014 5:23:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; GAFreedom

Bundy made a critical error in not signing the 1993 lease and paying the fees because it converted him from a stakeholder to a trespasser.

It’s probably true that the BLM intended to manage him into non-existence, but giving up his legal interest in the allotment is not the smartest way to fight city hall.

The temporary victory of this weekend may turn out to be Pyrrhic in the long run.


142 posted on 04/13/2014 5:24:58 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

I hope the shenanigans of the fedcoats will explain how 50+ other ranchers were chased off the land.


143 posted on 04/13/2014 5:28:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: GAFreedom

•Elko County, Nev., Commissioner Demar Dahl said that the land in dispute in the case of rancher Cliven Bundy does belong to the federal government.
•However, he’s part of a state-sanctioned task force charged with bringing public land under state control.
•He believes the government’s response to the dispute has been “unprecedented.”
•The man who says he’s a friend of Bundy’s also added that the rancher did try to pay the county his grazing fees instead of the federal government.
•“I don’t know why he hasn’t mentioned this more often.”


144 posted on 04/13/2014 5:33:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GAFreedom; Georgia Girl 2; Jim Robinson

Your info is wrong. The desert tortoise was listed in the endangered species act in 1989


145 posted on 04/13/2014 5:43:45 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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In sum, the most analytical and critical thinking seen in many US legal situations at the federal level is whatever the imperial federal official says it is at that moment.

And that’s the actual problem. The ‘Rule of Law’ is become ephemeral rule of men.


146 posted on 04/13/2014 5:48:27 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Actually, some courts do get it right. In this case, Hage lost on his “no such thing as federal land” stance, but the BLM behavior “shocked the conscience of the court” by creating a fight for no reason.

““In the present case, the Government’s actions over the past two decades shocks the conscience of the Court, and the burden on the Government of taking a few minutes to realize that the reference to the UCC on the Estate’s application was nonsensical and would not affect the terms of the permit was minuscule compared to the private interest affected. ..Based upon E. Wayne Hage’s declaration that he refused to waive his rights—a declaration that did not purport to change the substance of the grazing permit renewal for which he was applying, and which had no plausible legal effect other than to superfluously assert non-waiver of rights—the Government denied him a renewal grazing permit based upon its frankly nonsensical position that such an assertion of rights meant that the application had not been properly completed.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/144609491/United-States-v-Estate-of-Hage-No-2-07-cv-01154-RCJ-VCF-Findings-of-Fact-Conclusions-of-Law-and-Injunction-D-Nev-May-24-2013


147 posted on 04/13/2014 5:48:54 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: combat_boots

That 50+ is unsubstantiated. This is Nevada desert, not plush green Oregon, so I’m having a hard time believing there were 50+ ranchers in that area, or that the BLM was the sole cause of attrition.

Less than 2% of the population actively farms or ranches now compared to 98% a hundred-fifty years ago. Things change.


148 posted on 04/13/2014 5:51:05 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Mr Rogers

Hage never got his money, did he. Now that he’s dead, the decision’s overturned. Like it was no harm, no foul? Really?

The goalposts are moved in these land wars. Eminent domain, water/grazing rights in question, millions of acres sought for ‘energy zones’ (which may turn around and be packaged to our enemies for their own purposes)—all these issues in contention can be argued from a stated legal point of view that favors federal positions.

They remind me of the capitulations at the end of the Ottoman Empire—which sliced up territory to the highest bidder and helped collapse that government.

The larger picture here is the sovereignty of US land. Not FEDERAL land. We each own federal land, as we are the people here. Not the Communist Chinese.


149 posted on 04/13/2014 5:55:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Hage didn’t get his money. His legal theories sucked. However, the BLM has been ordered to give his heirs a grazing permit and access to water.

We do all own the public land, but we also elect Congress to administer it for us, per the Constitution. Unhappily, we have elected Congresses and even a Republican House that won’t lift a finger to stop the environmental radicals.


150 posted on 04/13/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: xzins; Georgia Girl 2; Jim Robinson
Your info is wrong. The desert tortoise was listed in the endangered species act in 1989
My information is not wrong. The desert tortoise was listed in the Endangered Species Act in 1989, yes. Bundy's land was made a desert tortoise habitat in 1998. I quote from the article itself:

The land used by cattle rancher Cliven Bundy was declared off-limits by the federal government in 1998 when it was designated as a protected habitat for desert tortoises, which makes its home in the American Southwest and is listed as “threatened” under the Endangered Species Act.

Before you say I'm wrong, you might want to double-check things.
151 posted on 04/14/2014 6:56:44 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
•Elko County, Nev., Commissioner Demar Dahl said that the land in dispute in the case of rancher Cliven Bundy does belong to the federal government. •However, he’s part of a state-sanctioned task force charged with bringing public land under state control. •He believes the government’s response to the dispute has been “unprecedented.” •The man who says he’s a friend of Bundy’s also added that the rancher did try to pay the county his grazing fees instead of the federal government. •“I don’t know why he hasn’t mentioned this more often.”
I'm aware of all this. It doesn't give Bundy more legal standing or make him right. And if the county did take those grazing fees? They'd be wrong. County does not own the land. Transfer it to the county first and I'll agree.
152 posted on 04/14/2014 6:59:13 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: GAFreedom

The date being right or wrong is bullshit. The entire tortoise issue is bullshit. The Endangered Species Act is bullshit. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.


153 posted on 04/14/2014 7:02:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Valpal1; Georgia Girl 2
Bundy made a critical error in not signing the 1993 lease and paying the fees because it converted him from a stakeholder to a trespasser. It’s probably true that the BLM intended to manage him into non-existence, but giving up his legal interest in the allotment is not the smartest way to fight city hall. The temporary victory of this weekend may turn out to be Pyrrhic in the long run.
I agree with all of this. It is going to turn into a Pyrrhic victory, and if what I'm reading in Bundy's interviews is right, I think it's going to get worse. He appears to not recognize the federal government at all and sources indicate he started all this after visits from tax protester people in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

That makes me question: has he paid his federal income taxes? Because if not, I'm betting an audit will be coming along and probably significant charges of tax evasion. That's usually what happens in cases where someone goes real public with the sovereign citizen views. Look at the case of the Brown family. Very instructive.
154 posted on 04/14/2014 7:04:30 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: GAFreedom

The original 1773 tea partiers were probably also in the wrong.

Sometimes a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do to defend his God-given rights.


155 posted on 04/14/2014 7:04:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GAFreedom

Alright, that’s enough. Time to apply a little Troll-B-Gone.


156 posted on 04/14/2014 7:06:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GAFreedom

I think that if he wasn’t paying his taxes, that the IRS would have been on him a very long time ago and the cattle would have been sold to pay them and this cattle battle would have never happened.


157 posted on 04/14/2014 7:26:05 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: GAFreedom

“That makes me question: has he paid his federal income taxes? Because if not, I’m betting an audit will be coming along and probably significant charges of tax evasion”

I think you have the imagination to either be a successful fiction writer or a new senior aide to Harry Reid. He likes to make stuff up about people too. Oh wait, maybe you already are a Ried aide. :-)


158 posted on 04/14/2014 8:07:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GAFreedom

“That makes me question: has he paid his federal income taxes? Because if not, I’m betting an audit will be coming along and probably significant charges of tax evasion”

I think you have the imagination to either be a successful fiction writer or a new senior aide to Harry Reid. He likes to make stuff up about people too. Oh wait, maybe you already are a Ried aide. :-)


159 posted on 04/14/2014 8:07:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GAFreedom; Georgia Girl 2; Jim Robinson

Under Nevada law the desert tortoise, since it was on the endangered species list, came under protected status IN NEVADA as early as 1991 and probably back to 1987, as I already noted. Available statuses for all reptiles were: game, unprotected, protected AND they had to be in one of the classifications.

I had already double checked.


160 posted on 04/15/2014 6:54:13 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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