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To: doc maverick; saywhatagain

Look, first of all it was NEVER his land. It has been FEDERAL land since Nevada became a state. That was part of the law that went into effect when Nevada was granted statehood. Many ranchers in the lower West dispute it, but that is the law.

Second, the rancher in question, by his own daughter’s admission, stopped paying the fees in 1998 because the BLM was taking the money and not using it to improve anything. Now this is me, but I suspect the BLM was actually doing the opposite and tearing out improvements.

So Bundy was grazing on federal land for twenty years without paying any grazing fees, while the rights were sold to some front group for Harry Reid. My question is this.

My family has had dealings with the BLM (again, I have unfortunate experience here). They don’t let you graze for free very long. Why did they do it for twenty years? More to the point, my did the BLM now decide to send in the troops?

There is a lot of odd things here. My family has land out west. Water rights, grazing rights, and land rights have been the cause of many, many range wars over the years. But I have never, and I mean never, seen a case where a person who did not have the rights to a parcel be allowed to have free use for decades without any action by the BLM jack boots. I have also never seen BLM and the fedgov act like this!

There is something very odd here. Very odd. For starters there is the little tidbit about one of Reid’s boys wanting to put solar panels on the land (which is odd because the BLM has rejected similar projects near home). Then their is the fact they call out a small army, shut down cell phones, and start shooting cattle. In my experience (and yes I have seen it) they send in guys to grab the cattle, and either impound them or sell them for the back fees and penalties. They don’t shoot them.

To be honest I don’t trust either party in this.


128 posted on 04/11/2014 6:43:33 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Very good. I agree "we" really do not know all the facts and i agree with you using my term, nothing about this is passing the smell test. On either side.

I can not imagine any reason to bring in 200 armed personnel with snipers to "begin" the process of removing cows. But ok, so they want to protect the hands doing the deed from an angry rancher. But someone needs to explain why a "First Amendment" zone."

Obviously this is not being done by a "court order" or else law enforcement or the sheriff office would be involved. No one is under threat of arrest. It "appears" BLM just removing property off their property. Unfortunately, the neighbor next door feels he has a rightful claim. And a claim most of us here believes to be legitimate regardless of what some corrupt judge rules..

135 posted on 04/11/2014 6:58:51 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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