Skip to comments.BOMBSHELL REPORT: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch (freerepublic credited)
Posted on 04/11/2014 3:01:50 PM PDT by lowbridge
The Bureau of Land Management, whose Director was Sen. Harry Reids (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundys cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.
Corrupt Democratic Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) working with the Chinese govt to take land from hard-working Americans.
Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled Cattle Trespass Impacts directly states that Bundys cattle impacts solar development, more specifically the construction of utility-scale solar power generation facilities on public lands.
Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle, the document states.
(Excerpt) Read more at redflagnews.com ...
DITTO THAT 100%!
Now there’s a big surprise - not!!
I lived in Las Vegas for 45 yrs before relocating to the south. This isn’t anything new for ole Harry, he’s as corrupt as they come. It isn’t his first land deal in Nevada, but he is slick and his deals are usually under someone else’s name. I could tell you stories of Harry’s shady deal, but don’t dare to reveal names, etc. He’s also a vengeful and utterly vicious man.
So Harry Reid works for the Red Army and employs legions of Federal brown shirts, Despicable.
Same legal arguments as before:
US Government owns the land in question
US Government can decide what to do with that land
If the US Government thinks a solar farm or tortoise ranch or rock garden is better use for that land, they can decide what to do with that land.
When Bundy stopped paying the grazing fees, he lost his right to access and graze on someone else’s land
For the past 20 years or so, Bundy has been freeloading off of the public lands without paying the fees that are legally required to use that land.
True. The prospects for expulsion are slim and none. Even if the GOP runs the table this November and flips all 21 dem Senate seats up in 2014, they would still be one vote short of the 67 votes necessary to expel Reid (and that assumes no GOP Senator votes no - not a sure thing in a GOP senatorial delegation populated by the likes of McCain and Graham. And I don't think anyone in their wildest fantasies is projecting a GOP Senate sweep in November.
We can always dream, I guess. Let's see: The pubbies run the table and Maine's Angus King goes with the GOP (that has been rumored). That's 67 - impeachment territory.
Did you read the statement from his daughter? He stopped paying the grazing fees because he was not happy with how the BLM was spending the money. He then has been in court trying to pay the fees to Nevada, not the BLM.
No I totally agree with him being upset about the BLM. But he doesn’t own the land, and stopped paying the fees. He has been grazing on federal lands for free for twenty years.
In short he is a martyr trying to climb on a cross of his own making. What I want to know is how he was able to get away with it for twenty years. The BLM goes after the cattle typically in thirty days on non payment
"The origin of all civil government, justly established, must be a voluntary compact, between the rulers and the ruled; and must be liable to such limitations, as are necessary for the security of the absolute rights of the latter; for what original title can any man or set of men have, to govern others, except their own consent?
To usurp dominion over a people, in their own despite, or to grasp at a more extensive power than they are willing to entrust, is to violate that law of nature, which gives every man a right to his personal liberty; and can, therefore, confer no obligation to obedience."
That's a deep statement. Something to ponder.
He doesn’t own the land. The Fedgov does. You can’t buy the rights, you pay the fees. He has, by own admission not done so.
I have some experience with this, unfortunately. I feel for this gentleman, but it’s not his land and he has been grazing on it illegally for twenty years by his own admission. Range wars have literally been fought over less. If another gentleman had the rights, there would have been shots fired well before the Feds showed up.
I want to know why this is happening now, the way it is.
When they come for “your land”, I bet you’ll be singing another tune. By hook or by crook, it will happen if the Obama regime and it’s minions are not stomped down.
Crony capitalist rent seeking is the trademarked method of the Big government activist left. Which is exactly why big corporations donated for more money to Obama then they did to Republicans. If you have a choice between donating to a politician who says he will just leave you alone For a politician who will promise that he will use gubmint force to knee cap Your competition which would you choose?
One choice is nice the other choice is great. Ask the folks over at Solyndra.
..His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission. (Emphasis added.)
You make sound oh so simple. Its all black and white. No grey area here, heh?
Lets start with the the government TOOK the family's claim to the land, along with the water rights without compensation many years ago. Then there still is the small matter that it is a free range state. Of which has been argued in the courts many many years.
In other words, its not as simple as, "hey dude he aint payin his fees. He has no right or claim to the land." Government went 20 years without doing anything. Till ole Harry and son want to profit from the Chinese, then its ok to take the cattle off the land Nd shoot the family because they are not cooperating.
This is America?
And thats ok with you?
That’s the best quote I ever heard from Alexander Hamilton. Thank you.
What if your landlord blocked your business or your driveway from making money to pay those rents?
This is what happened, they restricted his cow count. Moreover the contract was not signed with the BLM.
What if your landlord blocked your business or your driveway from making money to pay those rents?
This is what happened, they restricted his cow count. Moreover the contract was not signed with the BLM.
This called absolutist privileging powers.
You’re quite welcome.
How do you freeload on land the government pays nothing for, does nothing to improve, and has driven everyone else off of it for a corrupt Senators pet project?
Are you working for a solar development company by any chance?
You wouldn’t have done shit over the tea tax either would you? You would have been one of the ones decrying to tossing of tea into Boston harbor...
“It’s not the same thing!”
Yes. Yes it is...
Bundy’s family has been using that land long before there were any fees to do so.
Lord Jesus, help us.
interesting. We have a government in washington that is in a total melt down. The populace is pissed over repeated lies - I won’t list them because its boring. We have a communist in OUR White house . That is worse than a sexual predictor. But we are now “fed” up. and we are moving toward Nevada by the thousands ,for the first battle. The feds lose either way.
I think we just may!
Look, first of all it was NEVER his land. It has been FEDERAL land since Nevada became a state. That was part of the law that went into effect when Nevada was granted statehood. Many ranchers in the lower West dispute it, but that is the law.
Second, the rancher in question, by his own daughter’s admission, stopped paying the fees in 1998 because the BLM was taking the money and not using it to improve anything. Now this is me, but I suspect the BLM was actually doing the opposite and tearing out improvements.
So Bundy was grazing on federal land for twenty years without paying any grazing fees, while the rights were sold to some front group for Harry Reid. My question is this.
My family has had dealings with the BLM (again, I have unfortunate experience here). They don’t let you graze for free very long. Why did they do it for twenty years? More to the point, my did the BLM now decide to send in the troops?
There is a lot of odd things here. My family has land out west. Water rights, grazing rights, and land rights have been the cause of many, many range wars over the years. But I have never, and I mean never, seen a case where a person who did not have the rights to a parcel be allowed to have free use for decades without any action by the BLM jack boots. I have also never seen BLM and the fedgov act like this!
There is something very odd here. Very odd. For starters there is the little tidbit about one of Reid’s boys wanting to put solar panels on the land (which is odd because the BLM has rejected similar projects near home). Then their is the fact they call out a small army, shut down cell phones, and start shooting cattle. In my experience (and yes I have seen it) they send in guys to grab the cattle, and either impound them or sell them for the back fees and penalties. They don’t shoot them.
To be honest I don’t trust either party in this.
Is there any way to find out when Harry will be at his home or in his Las Vegas office? A “little” protest is in order.
Please let me be clear though. I do not like where this is headed, as I believe you too do not like where this situation is headed. I hate the thought of people dying but even Thomas Jefferson said his famous quote of ‘The Tree of Liberty Must Be Watered From Time to Time’ and that means bloodshed. Once shooting starts and if enough people fall through the cracks being murdered and this does get out of hand, innocent people will be killed. I always hate it when innocent people are murdered. Guess my Daddy raised me to be that way. Am glad Daddy did raise me that way. Have never had to shoot anyone. Prayers it remains that way.
I raise you one better.
My family used to have (note past tense) a parcel of land. My family owned it outright, and had clear title to. A rather big name in the news business was buying up a lot of land to play rancher and bought the parcel that granted access to ours.
My cousin showed up one day to see a fence across the road that was leading to his land. He opened it, and was met by the sheriff on the way out.
Long story short, we lost that land because the previous owners and my cousin’s family never sat down and spelled out access rights. He was shut out, of his own land, and at the end of the day lost it (well, he did get a decent price for it) because of some legal trick that honestly would not have worked in most areas.
Land rights and grazing rights are very messy out west. Look at the old range wars (the last one recognized one ended with Tom Horn). In the homestead days, the ranchers would stake false claims to block access to “their” piece of government land, and then claim they needed to pay reduced fees because of the lack of access.
Have there been any freepers who suddenly stopped posting and were never heard from again? It’s a serious question.
You’d think if “they” made someone “disappear” they’d want everyone else to know.
I truly believe the “government”, whoever that is, will do whatever it wants.
You are both missing a key point. The Federal Government, the Sierra Club, and corrupt politicians have manipulated the Endangered Species Act, the Environmental Protection Act, and the BLM policies to vacate long standing grazing rights and water rights which have long been sacrosanct in the West.
That is what is going on here. Someone wants the land, and they want Bundy and his cattle gone. The instrument of this mischief is the Desert Tortoise who gets along quite well with cattle but not so much with solar farms and suburban housing developments. The are arbitrarily restricting the size of his herd and jacking up the fees to run him off using the tortoise as their legal battering ram. This is how Reid has been operating for years and why he is so powerful in Nevada. You screw with him, and he will take away your livlihood.
This dispute has been in the courts for years and that’s where it belongs. Do you wonder why after all of these years we suddenly have the BLM doing a reenactment of the Normandy invasion? It’s because Harry Reid’s son has cut a deal with a Chinese company to build a solar farm and they want that land NOW.
I can not imagine any reason to bring in 200 armed personnel with snipers to "begin" the process of removing cows. But ok, so they want to protect the hands doing the deed from an angry rancher. But someone needs to explain why a "First Amendment" zone."
Obviously this is not being done by a "court order" or else law enforcement or the sheriff office would be involved. No one is under threat of arrest. It "appears" BLM just removing property off their property. Unfortunately, the neighbor next door feels he has a rightful claim. And a claim most of us here believes to be legitimate regardless of what some corrupt judge rules..
Friend I agree with you about that.
Though I don’t think it is the Sierra club, I think it may be some Chinese firm (as you stated). I do wonder about the the timing and escalation. If they keep it in the courts, Mr Bundy will run out of money before they do.
My question is who is on Mr Bundy’s side? This is a message to someone, and it isn’t about the ranch.
I think the water is coming on. It is about to rain.
why am i not surprised
“After more than two years of secret negotiations beginning in 2009, lawmakers in Clark County, Nevada, unanimously agreed to sell 9,000 acres of public land to ENN for the bargain price of just $4.5 million ($500 per acre) in December 2011.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal questioned the steep discount ENN received for the land, which had been previously appraised for between $30 million and $39 million. The arrangement also included a bundle of tax incentives for ENN.
Reid, who reportedly helped secure a series of state and federal waivers as part of the deal, was actively involved in the negotiations with ENN. In April 2011, he led a delegation of senators to China, where the lawmakers met with senior Chinese officials and toured a number of green energy facilities, including the ENN headquarters in Langfang, China.
Upon his return, Reid called on the United States to pursue new opportunities to collaborate on and advance clean-energy deployment here and abroad.
Several months later, ENN chairman Wang Yusuo spoke at Reids clean energy summit, calling for a more open and comprehensive partnership between China and the United States on green energy.
ENN hired Richard Bryan, a Democrat who served with Reid in the U.S. Senate from 1989 to 2001, to represent the company in negotiations with state and federal officials. Reids son Rory is a partner at Bryans law firm.
Senator Reid has actually gone to China, has actually had visits with the chairman of ENN, the entire global enterprise, has actually taken a look at some of their developments there, Bryan said of Reids involvement. It would seem to me that Senator Reid would exercise his persuasive powers on behalf of the state of Nevada.
Wangs company wants to build a 720-megawatt solar farm, research park, and thin-film solar panel manufacturing facility in southern Nevada, and has said it expects to spend between $4 billion and $6 billion on the project. That is at least half the $8 billion ENN plans to invest in green energy in the United States over the next decade.
The project is threatened, however, because NV EnergyNevadas largest utility providerhas said it is not in the market for renewable energy at this time, citing the higher costs of solar power and the fact that it has already exceeded the state-mandated quota for renewable sources through 2014.
Reid has responded by badmouthing NV Energy and threatening to have one of its coal-fired power plants shut down.”
Lots of links @ “BLM Wont Say if Theyve Euthanized Cows in Ranch Standoff
We do have a protocol in terms of when we would euthanize animals”
That's a good question. He has decided to fight because he hasn't got much to lose. His actions represent an opportunity to drive a stake through the heart of the abuse of the EPA and the ESA, but our politicians haven't got the stomach for that kind of fight.
December 23, 2011 - 2:02am
Here comes the sun
We hate to spoil the big party at the Clark County Government Center — Tuesday’s commission meeting was teeming with promises of jobs, clean energy and sizable investments in Southern Nevada — but something about the sale of 9,000 acres of public land to ENN Mojave Energy just doesn’t add up.
Why did commissioners give such a steep discount to a Chinese company promising to spend between $1 billion and $6 billion developing the site near Laughlin? Charging ENN Mojave Energy just $4.5 million — $500 an acre — when two appraisals valued the land at between $29.6 million and $38.6 million was awfully generous. Expecting fair market value for county land shouldn’t be too much when big shots are talking about billions of dollars worth of business, right?
In fact, the deal given to ENN Mojave Energy reflects the viability of the project. The company is getting a bargain because the chances that its giant solar-panel manufacturing plant, 500-megawatt solar power array and futuristic “eco-city” and research park will actually be built are quite slim.
Green energy just doesn’t pencil out — even with massive taxpayer subsidies.
For starters, ENN Mojave Energy must find utilities willing to buy the solar power it plans to produce. That’s no sure thing. But assuming ENN Mojave Energy gets that far, its manufacturing plant would face some harsh market realities. Recall that California solar panel maker Solyndra shut down and went bankrupt this year despite collecting a $535 million loan guarantee from the U.S. Department of Energy. If it weren’t for tax incentives for both buyers and manufacturers — not to mention heavy political pressure — the entire industry would collapse.
Commissioners point to the promise of jobs and economic development as reason to authorize the land giveaway. ENN Mojave Energy says the deal could create up to 2,900 construction jobs and more than 2,000 permanent jobs, although the terms of the land sale require $350 million worth of investment and the hiring of just 500 workers by 2016.
Job creation is a worthy goal. And the county clearly took steps to ensure ENN follows through on its promises and can’t flip the land at a profit, then disappear. But so much of Tuesday’s commission meeting was political kabuki that it’s hard to get excited at this point. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been pulling strings behind the scenes. ENN hired former Nevada Gov. and U.S. Sen. Richard Bryan to handle Tuesday’s final sales pitch. And both sides openly pandered to unions with assurances that everything possible will be done to ensure Nevadans are hired into every job.
We certainly hope ENN Mojave Energy succeeds and becomes a valued member of the Southern Nevada business community. But any entity that needs huge amounts of political juice and almost free public land just to get off the starting block is far from a slam dunk.
Interesting thought. Usually i don't play the guessing game without more facts. But your statement is thought provoking. Maybe the message is to the Koch brother on and completely unrelated issue. Considering how they are living in Dingy's head rent free.
I prefer to think more simply. Dingy thinkin he may no longer be senate leader next year and trying to tie up all business ends now while he can.
“Green energy just doesnt pencil out even with massive taxpayer subsidies.”
“...the chances that its giant solar-panel manufacturing plant, 500-megawatt solar power array and futuristic eco-city and research park will actually be built are quite slim.”
Something else is happening behind Dingy’s soiled skirt; it’s not what it seems. Fracking? Minerals? Water? What’s behind it?
Declaration of Martial Law and the permanent overthrow of the Constitution.
The Bundy protest site and the Laughlin, NV land are 170 miles apart. I think I’m missing something.
But not before the government owned the land
The government paid 15 million for the land when it obtained it from Mexico. The government built roads, Hover dam, marinas, power distribution grids, docks ...
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