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Ezekiel Emanuel Further Explains His Prediction That Employers Will Drop Health Insurance
New York Times ^ | April 7, 2014 | ROBB MANDELBAUM

Posted on 04/08/2014 11:05:38 AM PDT by grundle

Our recent interview with Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel about his provocative prediction that most employers will abandon health coverage by 2025 struck a nerve with You’re The Boss readers.

It came as no surprise that Dr. Emanuel’s claim, first made in his new book, “Reinventing American Health Care,” would be swept up in the broader political and ideological debate about the Affordable Care Act. But in their many comments, readers raised interesting questions, and we took some of them back to Dr. Emanuel in another conversation that appears, edited and condensed, below.

It’s worth noting that among those readers who identified themselves as small-business owners, there was little disagreement: Most expressed a strong desire to get out of the health insurance business. “I have provided health insurance for 30 years and am dropping it in 60 days,” wrote J of New York. To his employees, he continued, health care costs are an abstraction, “and my contributions to it are not clearly recognized. Now they will be.”

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Ezekiel Emanuel is one of the authors of Obamacare, and he is saying that it will cause most employers to stop offering insurance to their employees.
1 posted on 04/08/2014 11:05:38 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Yes, of course. The left HATES the fact that some people have great policies from their employer, and that other people have lousy policies or none.

Their goal is complete takeover. To get there, they will tax the hell out of employer-paid policies until they destroy them.


2 posted on 04/08/2014 11:07:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: grundle
The goal of OsamabamaCare was,from the very beginning,to drive private health insurers...and HMOs...out of business.Once accomplished the rest is easy peasey.
3 posted on 04/08/2014 11:08:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: grundle

This is how they get to single payer.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 11:13:35 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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5 posted on 04/08/2014 11:18:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: grundle

“Single Payer” is every Marxist’s ‘wet dream’.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 11:25:24 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: I want the USA back

The ‘Progressives’ have set the tone. No matter what employers do, it will never be enough according to their ideology.
“..my contributions to it are not clearly recognized. Now they will be.” Says it all.
Be careful what you ask for.


7 posted on 04/08/2014 11:26:51 AM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: grundle

I’d think it was also helpful to actuaries. Someone who can work is probably not going to be a basket case. (Of course there’s families of those who can work.)


8 posted on 04/08/2014 11:51:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
This is how they get to single payer.

Bingo. This was the goal all along.

9 posted on 04/08/2014 12:12:09 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: grundle

Kevorkian was a doctor too!


10 posted on 04/08/2014 12:13:43 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: grundle

It may come to that. I pay 100% of my employees health premium. One of the older guys costs me $1000 a month just for him; not including his family.


11 posted on 04/08/2014 1:16:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grundle

A friend of mine on facebook posted this little story today:

I am sitting in the doctors office with Chickie (Wayne’s mom). Don’t even get me started about managed healthcare for the elderly. Medicare is taking away her home oxygen because she doesn’t fall low enough at night-81% is low but it needs to be for at least 5 minutes at a time- I believe the average needs to be less than 88% for the majority of the sleeping hours-are you kidding me!?!? She can’t walk across a room without sitting down and doing her breathing exercises to cat...ch her breath. Her doctor says she needs it, she knows she needs it, her family knows that it contributes positively to her quality of life and her health! But our government health care system knows more than we do! So disgusted and frustrated. Trying to find out what it would cost her per month to rent the oxygenator without utilizing Medicare. I have a feeling I’m not going to like the answer.


12 posted on 04/08/2014 3:12:37 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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Trying to find out what it would cost her per month to rent the oxygenator without utilizing Medicare. I have a feeling I’m not going to like the answer.


We had a used one for my mom. When we sold it the only interest in it was a guy who wanted one for his pug nosed baby pups who didn’t get enough oxygen.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 3:21:10 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: grundle
Most expressed a strong desire to get out of the health insurance business. “I have provided health insurance for 30 years and am dropping it in 60 days,” wrote J of New York. To his employees, he continued, health care costs are an abstraction, “and my contributions to it are not clearly recognized. Now they will be.”

Depends on what sort of qualifications one wants to attract and what the supply is of those workers.

There is still private health insurance in the other developed countries that have more socialized health care systems -- UK and Germany come to immediate mind. But I doubt much health insurance is going to be offered to attract low skilled workers.

14 posted on 04/08/2014 5:26:16 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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