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I-Team: Feds, Nevada rancher facing off over public lands
KLAS-TV Las Vegas ^ | April 4, 2014 | George Knapp

Posted on 04/07/2014 6:37:43 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Dozens of armed federal officers are preparing for a showdown with a Nevada cattle rancher regarded by some as an outlaw and a hero by others.

(Excerpt) Read more at 8newsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Nevada; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: agenda21; armed; bundy; clivenbundy; davebundy; feds; harryreid; neilkornze; nevada; rancher; un; un21; unagenda21
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To: jameslalor

We all own it. It is ours.


21 posted on 04/07/2014 7:30:38 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Flycatcher

“and NO ONE is allowed on it now!”

No, SOME people are allowed in. You just have to be ‘special’: a government worker or a wildlife biologist. They closed areas of the Gila River for Willow Flycatcher studies. They closed area of the forest to logging and thinning operations to ‘save’ the spotted owl and now those areas burnt completely to the ground. They plan to close a huge area of the NM Bootheel to ‘study’ the possibility of Jaguars returning (they literally studied one to death a few years ago by repeatedly shooting it with tranquilizers to ‘study’ it). Areas are being closed off to drilling and mining to ‘save’ variations of wild chickens. Farming has been shut down for our nation’s supply of vegetables to ‘save’ a minnow.

The Gang Greens have control of the US departments tasked with overseeing production of our food supply and energy needs and they use minnows, birds, and any other critter to retain control as our overlords. They shut us down one ranch, one farm, one mine, one oil well at a time.


22 posted on 04/07/2014 7:32:47 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: yldstrk
"We all own it. It is ours."

The Federal Lands are for social Just-Us; as proven during the most recent gov't "shutdown".

23 posted on 04/07/2014 7:33:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Carthego delenda est
"they literally studied one to death a few years ago by repeatedly shooting it with tranquilizers to ‘study’ it"

Just like the recent EPA Human studies of breathing Diesel fumes at high concentrations (the study sounded like torture to me - and not just torture of the data).

24 posted on 04/07/2014 7:36:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: taxcontrol

Yes, and was fined a little under $200 bucks for a one-time violation.

However, the federal government was fined over $4 million bucks for violations of his rights and the law.


25 posted on 04/07/2014 7:36:43 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: taxcontrol

If this was from the case from the Fox News Special Report.


26 posted on 04/07/2014 7:37:52 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Carthego delenda est
Great post. Bump!

And I'm a field biologist!

27 posted on 04/07/2014 7:50:57 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: tiki

And hire more Cattle Guards to stand out there and make sure the cows don’t go where they’re not wanted. /s


28 posted on 04/07/2014 8:22:44 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: Flycatcher

The fascists have been working towards closing public lands for years and it seems they’ve arrived at their goal, at least in some areas. It won’t be long until they’ll do it at will everywhere.

A purge of these sorry people in government departments starting at the top is needed soon, like in now.

Thanks for that info and the ping.


29 posted on 04/07/2014 8:32:47 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jameslalor

Your description is an easterner’s simplified version of many of these events in the west.

In the west, there is indeed split-estate property. One of the estates split from others is water.

In Nevada, there clear, unequivocal water rights law controlled by the state. Many ranchers, especially in the southern part of the state, have long-held water rights to streams and springs that are on public land. These rights are now quite valuable.

Before the Taylor Grazing Act, the graziers held rights to the springs for watering cattle/sheep and an area of meadow around such springs and creeks for a small distance around them. Those rights are still recorded on the books in Nevada, and the water rights are absolutely recorded by the State Engineer’s office.

There’s a wrinkle tho: In Nevada, you have to “use it or lose it” with regards to most water rights, both surface and drilled. If you don’t use your water rights at least one year out of every five, you run the risk of losing your water rights, which then revert to ownership by the state.

The BLM has been using the tactic of using “grazing conditions” (which most city slickers wouldn’t know one stick of grass from another, yet they want to propound long and loud about grazing issues) to suspend grazing on an area where the BLM would like to apply for the water. The BLM knows that all they need to do is suspend the grazing for six years, then protest to the State Engineer’s office on the lack of beneficial use of the water, then there’s a hearing in Carson and the water is removed from the rancher’s control.

The water is the private property here, and is infinitely more valuable than the grazing rights. The law of beneficial use in Nevada is what is being used against the rancher by the BLM (and USFS) to gain control over the water.


30 posted on 04/07/2014 9:42:25 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

+1. As usual good summary from you.


31 posted on 04/07/2014 9:48:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Enlightened1

These people are incredibly brave. When you buck the US govt the response is swift and scary. I am very worried that those folks are going to get killed.


32 posted on 04/07/2014 9:54:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Flycatcher

The goals of UN Agenda 21 are being enforced.

Sad.

Stay well.


33 posted on 04/07/2014 3:56:40 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Enlightened1
Saw they arrested his son yesterday, “He was there to do some filming when about 11 federal agents pulled up and arrested him,” Bundy told News 3. “They said he was outside of the First Amendment area and they took him down. We don't know where he is now.”

The BLM confirmed the arrest in an emailed statement...

Another link to the story..

http://www.prisonplanet.com/federal-snipers-train-guns-on-family-for-filming-cattle.html

BLM changed his lease by limiting the number of cattle he could run to 150 head, because of a desert tortoise.

34 posted on 04/07/2014 4:11:02 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: wyokostur

Another link..

http://www.prisonplanet.com/armed-feds-prepare-for-showdown-with-nevada-cattle-rancher.html


35 posted on 04/07/2014 4:12:48 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: wyokostur

“They said he was outside of the First Amendment area and they took him down.”

I’m speechless.


36 posted on 04/08/2014 8:14:56 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Flycatcher
Not only is the rancher kept off these public lands, but everyone his. I and my crew HAD bird surveys in the Gold Butte area (including the Virgin River area all the way to Overton) but access has been denied by the Feds. This is a huge area of public lands: and NO ONE is allowed on it now!

Willow flycatchers?

37 posted on 04/08/2014 8:22:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare is Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: wyokostur

The SWAT Teams would have made excellent members of the SS. Unfortunately, they might as well be the SS since the outcome will be the same for this poor AMERICAN family. The Government is not our friend.


38 posted on 04/08/2014 8:22:38 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Enlightened1

The sad part of all this is they can protect the tortoise without stealing the man’s property. There is always some way to reach an amicable agreement.

But the government is run by a bunch of armed, jack-booted NAZI thugs. And the article said this went back 20 years. I think that makes Bush I, Clinton and Bush II culpable here in addition to the Obamabastard.


39 posted on 04/08/2014 9:00:05 AM PDT by ZULU (STOP JEB BUSH!!!! NO MORE BUSHES!! US OUT OF THE UN AND UN OUT OF US!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Willow flycatchers?

We record all birds present (and their breeding status) along the Lower Colorado River, including tributaries such as the Virgin River. But we are to be "extra" vigilant regarding certain "focal" species, which definitely does include the southwestern race (subspecies) of the willow flycatcher (conveniently known as the southwestern willow flycatcher).

Some other focal species include Bell' vireo, summer tanager, Gila woodpecker, gilded flicker, and the southwestern race of the yellow warbler, I believe.

40 posted on 04/08/2014 10:51:32 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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