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ATF Director: 'Wish I Had Better Answers' About ATF Agents Probing a Tea Party Conservative
CNS News ^ | 3 Apr 2014 | Susan Jones

Posted on 04/03/2014 10:35:15 AM PDT by mandaladon

CNSNews.com) - B. Todd Jones, director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, couldn't tell Congress why his agents made two visits to a tea party conservative in a 13-month period -- but only after she requested tax-exempt status for her conservative group, True the Vote.

Catherine Engelbrecht had a Federal Firearms License (FFL) for 12 years. "And suddenly she applies for tax exempt status, and you're knocking on her door twice in 13 months," Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told Jones at a hearing on Wednesday.

"Congressman, I wish I had better answers," Jones said.

Jordan noted that ATF generally does FFL compliance inspections only in cases with "high-risk indicators," such as criminal activity -- but none of those indicators applied to Engelbrecht:

"Imagine what this lady felt like," a heated Jordan told Jones.

"She gets the full weight of the federal government coming down on her and her family and her business, and all she's trying to do is get a tax-exempt status that had been routine for 50 years, and suddenly now the federal government (is) saying, no, no, no -- you're not going to get that tax-exempt status, and we're going to send four federal agencies out to harass you, including yours."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: demshateGod

I am wondering if this has anything to do with those DHS terrorist guides that were changed from Islam to Domestic Right Wing terrorists.

By mistake of course.


21 posted on 04/03/2014 10:56:59 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: mandaladon
BS. and B.O.S.S.


22 posted on 04/03/2014 11:04:19 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: demshateGod

No, but several of the survivors were compensated through civil procedures, AFAIK.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 11:06:17 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: mandaladon

Ahhh...because they were ordered to by ERIC HOLDER of the JUST US Department?

Though not very smart, I’ll bet the a’hole did so with a PHONE CALL on the burn phone he keeps for such situations. Can’t risk having any of those pesky emails showing up in a century or two after he and obozo are safely in their graves.


24 posted on 04/03/2014 11:07:33 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: mandaladon

ATF probed the hell out of the Branch Davidians. Guess some things just never change.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 11:12:56 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: mandaladon

How long does a moral society survive when those in government and in law enforcement are serial liars and career criminals?


26 posted on 04/03/2014 11:14:18 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: mandaladon; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

27 posted on 04/03/2014 11:15:32 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: mandaladon

“high-risk indicators,” such as criminal activity”

Yeah right. Political and religious beliefs are now “high risk” indicators.


28 posted on 04/03/2014 11:15:52 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: mandaladon
'Not even a smidgen of corruption'

It is all such BS. And a Member of Congress showed up at someone's place of business??? WTF?

29 posted on 04/03/2014 11:17:43 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: Farmer Dean

A flogging: 10 lashes. Failure to answer the question: Hanging for sedition.


30 posted on 04/03/2014 11:21:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: mandaladon

“Did anyone at the White House...?”
“No,” Jones replied.
“Did any federal agency talk to you or anyone at ATF...?”
“No.”
“Did any member of Congress contact you or anyone at ATF...?”
“Not to my knowledge,” Jones replied.
“Have you talked to any other federal agency...”?
“Not to my knowledge.”
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From a definitive “NO” to a “NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE”. Jones is lying through his teeth.


31 posted on 04/03/2014 11:21:49 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: mandaladon

And the Dems in Congress accused Nixon of stonewalling during Watergate (and the media ran with it over and over and over and...).


32 posted on 04/03/2014 11:22:40 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Gen.Blather

I was at a gun show in Pasadena, TX when a guy came up to one of the venders and wanted to buy a Luger with no papers.

The dealer said he couldn’t do it.

The guy then offered him an additional $500 if he would sell with no papers.

The dealer said no.

The guy then offered an additional $1000 for no papers.

I was standing at the table next to him and heard what he was doing so I acted like I knew him.

I approached him stuck out my hand and shook his hand and asked him how the ATF had been treating him.

Wonder why he left the show?


33 posted on 04/03/2014 11:25:03 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

I wanted to buy a .38 revolver to wear on my property so I could shoot snakes with snake shot. I just wanted a cheap gun. I wandered my entire local armory show and couldn’t find one used .38. An old man heard me asking and said he had a .38 he was trying to sell. He’d worn it for 30 years some decades ago. It was in awesome condition. I whipped out 4 $100 bills and walked with it. The dealers were visibly angry.

When I was a kid I could have walked into K-mart or Sears and bought it at the counter just as easily. (I don’t know if you had to be an adult or not back then, but regardless no id was required. However, you had to produce a driver’s license to buy ammo and sign a book.)


34 posted on 04/03/2014 11:33:54 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: IMR 4350; Chode; SgtBob

Classic!!!

ROFLMAOPIP!!!


35 posted on 04/03/2014 11:34:01 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Subpoena the field agents that conducted the visits and the lower level supervisors. They aren’t used to Congressional hearings and pressure. They might actually commit truth, inadvertently.


36 posted on 04/03/2014 11:41:29 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: mandaladon

I was watching parts of the testimony of Morrell yesterday. The way he answered questions, combined with Samatha Powers answers for UN position, Lois Lerner taking the fifth and rubbing it in their faces, the IRS head smug answers, and on and on. They not only refuse to answer, they are downright blatently disrepectful and snarky about it. And the Repubs just bend over and take it. Those people on the Hill do not seem to grasp they were put back in charge for a reason. It reminds me of professional wrestling and the stage act of just about losing and suddenly getting a second wind to win. Makes my blood boil.


37 posted on 04/03/2014 11:44:00 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: demshateGod

Of course not. Might makes Right!


38 posted on 04/03/2014 11:55:40 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: mandaladon

I wonder how her ethics complaint against the large-mouthed, fat-headed Amish fellow is coming along.


39 posted on 04/03/2014 12:28:37 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: mandaladon
"Congressman, I wish I had better answers," Jones said.

Then. Get. Some.

40 posted on 04/03/2014 12:30:11 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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