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The tiny Estonian town that could spell the end of NATO
The Week ^ | 3/27/2014 | By Michael Ben-Gad

Posted on 03/27/2014 3:54:03 PM PDT by Mariner

Will Putin call NATO's bluff?

The Russian invasion and rapid absorption of the Crimean peninsula might seem like the spark ready to ignite a new Cold War. In fact, given the feeble Western response so far, the more likely outcome is not the division of Europe once more between NATO's Western alliance and a neo-Soviet Russia, but rather the fracturing and ultimate demise of NATO and the Western alliance itself.

Of course, no one expects the West to use military force to protect Ukrainian territory, despite the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in which Russia, the U.S., and the U.K. guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty in exchange for its relinquishing the nuclear weapons that remained on its territory after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yet even the Russians now seem surprised, indeed somewhat amused, by how disunited and weak the Western response has been. So what comes next?

Having demonstrated to the Ukrainians with his Crimean excursion the emptiness of Western guarantees...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: estonia; moldova; nato; obama; putin; ukraine
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To: Dagnabitt

Actually maybe a little bit of ethnic cleansing would make sense? Pay them to return to Russia and continue to enhance the miserable conditions in Russian ethnic areas. This really points to the absurdity of the “Diversity is our Strength” mantra.

141 posted on 03/28/2014 5:42:24 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Paul R.

This only points to the need for Taiwan, Japan & South Korea to develop nuclear weapons.

142 posted on 03/28/2014 5:43:29 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MaxMax
Europe didn't do squat to Hitler until England stood up. I don't really expect anything to be done other than rhetoric.

Remember when Russia invaded Afghanistan, or when the tanks rolled into Yugoslavia? We were in much better financial and military shape then than now IIRC. We didn't really do anything then either.

That's why I don't expect much now. Also we have a limp wristed Chamberlain in the White House.

143 posted on 03/28/2014 5:48:29 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MSF BU; Jim Robinson
Perhaps of interest. Direct link to the Prague Post.

Full text of Putin’s speech on Crimea

144 posted on 03/28/2014 5:56:31 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Viennacon

Half the people in this country might say “I disagree with obama on this but I still love and support him.”

145 posted on 03/28/2014 9:10:20 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican
And they would still vote for him.. My father told me that many Dems in his
town are backtracking saying they're Republican now. I said they're lying because
of the embarrassment Obama is causing them and they would most certainly keep voting
Democrat in every election expecting a different result.
146 posted on 03/28/2014 10:08:49 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Hardly.. there is a tried and true behavior in life. When a bully punches you in the nose he never backs down when you simply say to him... “That’s not a nice thing to do.”

147 posted on 03/30/2014 10:53:24 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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So true. "Diversity is our strength" is no more true in Estonia than it is in California or Detroit.

At least Russians in Estonia don't play the knock out game (they prefer the pass out drunk game).

148 posted on 03/30/2014 11:55:49 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Atlas Sneezed
It is a late reply, but I hope it is okay. Estonia has adopted a Finnish style defense policy and I believe it is very wise considering our very limited resources. Soviet occupation ruined our economy and costs in money easy for rich countries are hard for us. Every male nowadays has to go to a 8 to 11 month military training (it used to be longer, but training was of lesser quality) and we have weapons caches hidden in all our forests. Forests cover more than half of Estonian territory. In addition to this we have a large unpaid volunteer militia where people can keep on training on how to defend our land.

It is not so easy as we have to be very wise in where we spend our money. Estonia has 725 times smaller GDP than USA so there are no mistakes allowed when we want to build a credible defense against Russia. If NATO bails on their obligations we will die in a futile fight.

I hope this will not happen. I'll post a video of our volunteer militia training to lighten the gloomy mood.

149 posted on 03/31/2014 3:47:21 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: Dagnabitt

Yes, but in all fairness, that is pretty common up there. In Finland it is perfectly acceptable to answer “get drunk” when asked what you’re weekend plans are. The difference of course is that the the Finns (Swedes, Norwegian, Estonians, etc.) are industrious and live in well ordered societies. Why this is beyond the Russian people to do is an interesting anthropological question.

150 posted on 04/01/2014 6:54:43 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Krosan

It sounds as though Estonia is going toward the Swiss system?

151 posted on 04/01/2014 6:58:42 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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I think the systems are very similar anyway, but our situation and nature is so much more similar to Finland and the countries have such strong connection, that we’ll probably just keep trying to learn as much from them as we can and copy the parts that make sense. Finland is bigger, richer and not in NATO though. They also don’t have the legacy of 30% immigrants with questionable loyalty from the Soviet occupation.

152 posted on 04/01/2014 2:52:43 PM PDT by Krosan
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