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World Vision: Why We're Hiring Gay Christians in Same-Sex Marriages
Christianity Today ^ | March 24, 2014 | Celeste Gracey and Jeremy Weber

Posted on 03/24/2014 8:14:00 PM PDT by Coronal

World Vision's American branch will no longer require its more than 1,100 employees to restrict their sexual activity to marriage between one man and one woman.

Abstinence outside of marriage remains a rule. But a policy change announced Monday [March 24] will now permit gay Christians in legal same-sex marriages to be employed at one of America's largest Christian charities.

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KEYWORDS: christiancharity; christianity; homosexualagenda; religiousleft; sin; ssm; worldvision
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To: Coronal

Our donations to World Visions just ended.

Nor will I be referring interns to them from now on.


81 posted on 03/24/2014 10:48:29 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: scripter

“It would be great if another group took over but that won’t happen anytime soon. “

Actually there is another group sponsored by my denomination.

It is huge and very effective.

All of our giving will now be going to Convoy of Hope. http://www.convoyofhope.org


82 posted on 03/24/2014 10:51:54 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: Java4Jay

That would have been my thinking of why they are allowing married gays to work there - that they were afraid of a lawsuit. But in light of the 2010 case you bring up - it makes me wonder what is going on. I like WV and have been supporting them since I was in college 30+ years ago. Will need to research this more. Sad.


83 posted on 03/24/2014 11:04:56 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Coronal
"We're not caving to some kind of pressure. We're not on some slippery slope. There is no lawsuit threatening us. There is no employee group lobbying us," said Stearns. "This is not us compromising. It is us deferring to the authority of churches and denominations on theological issues. We're an operational arm of the global church, we're not a theological arm of the church.

In other words, you're willingly ignoring Scripture.

World Vision...are they the ones in the Family Christian Bookstores, asking us to sponsor children??

Samaritan's Purse--Franklin Graham's organization, also helps hungry children....with the added BONUS of not celebrating sodomy.

84 posted on 03/25/2014 2:00:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Coronal; yldstrk; GeronL; Viennacon; HiTech RedNeck; stormhill; Secret Agent Man; boycott; ...
One question for the crowd: Does World Vision accept any government monies in any way, shape, or form?

From their "Financial Accountability" page:

But instead of just sending the remaining 83¢ to the field, we send 60¢ directly to the field. Then we invest 23¢ into a global infrastructure so we can accept, procure, and distribute corporate donations, large private donations, and government grants.

It is entirely possible that they have been pressured by the government to accept this position.

You all will recall that when THE WON took office, one of the first things he did was to slightly alter the mission of the Faith Based Initiatives office -- from being one where the government would provide funding to faith based groups that provide social services to using those offices to help spread the Obama "transformation of America" message and mission. See these older threads where this has been discussed:

The Catholic Church has run into problems with this in the recent past. You've read all the threads posted by Catholics bemoaning this stuff (and by certain Protestants to mock the Catholic Church...and rightfully so). Sometimes, this has involved the compromise of the effort (See, for example, Catholic service group leaves Belleville diocese, to follow same-sex law) and sometimes it has ended up resulting in the effort being shut down (see, for example, DC tells Catholic Church Comply or Bye Bye, Illinois bishops announce shutdown of adoption services, PC Among Catholic Schools To Be Affected By Regulation (govt overlords at it again) and others).

The point being that this could very well what has happened with World Vision, behind the scenes. They could have been told, surreptitiously, that either they accept "same sex" couples or they lose the government grants that help them with their food distribution mission. And then they took the wrong decision...under duress. And that may not have come directly from the government, but from a large corporate benefactor (think about how many companies have taken this disgusting path, as well).

I'm not trying to defend World Vision, but I think you would be well served by diagnosing the cause -- "Why" did they take this horrible decision?

A lot of you have said that you are cutting them off. I can't blame you. But if you choose to donate to a different Christian charity, how do you know that they won't be the next to fall?

The guideline I use for my own donations is if they accept government grants, they get none of my money. The reason is that they are either compromised already or they are targets and likely will not stand. That severely limits the groups where I will donate, but that's sadly the way things are.

Hopefully y'all can learn from mistakes we've made.

My 2¢ FWIW, YMMV

85 posted on 03/25/2014 2:18:37 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: All
World Vision funding sources:

Samaritan's Purse funding sources:

Compassion International funding sources:

Convoy of Hope funding sources:

Source: Charity Navigator

FWIW

86 posted on 03/25/2014 2:41:53 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Coronal

We will learn a lot about America’s Christians when we see what happens to their donation rate.


87 posted on 03/25/2014 2:48:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: markomalley

I’ve always suspected that the “sponsoring children” thing was a scam.


88 posted on 03/25/2014 2:48:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy; markomalley

Why is it a “scam” if they accept government grants? I tend to see the reason on choosing a group that does not get gov’t assistance, but that to me doesn’t equate it to a scam. WV ranks pretty good in the funds received to funds that make it to the kids. (Or to other relief efforts, etc.)

Unless of course you are talking about the scam of taking tax payer’s money and giving it to the group. Then I suppose so. Which is perhaps no less a scam than me getting a tax benefit for each of my kids, or being married.

I have heard good things about Compassion International as well.


89 posted on 03/25/2014 3:02:46 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

“Why is it a “scam” if they accept government grants?”

I don’t know. Why?


90 posted on 03/25/2014 3:06:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: 21twelve
Why is it a “scam” if they accept government grants? I tend to see the reason on choosing a group that does not get gov’t assistance, but that to me doesn’t equate it to a scam.

I didn't say accepting government money was a scam. It is being unequally yoked with unbelievers.

91 posted on 03/25/2014 3:19:27 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Coronal
Stearns asserts that the "very narrow policy change" should be viewed by others as "symbolic not of compromise but of [Christian] unity." He even hopes it will inspire unity elsewhere among Christians.

NEWSFLASH:

SPIRIT OF UNITY: When everyone is united in a purpose... e.g. Tower of Babel... (Rebellion against God.)

UNITY OF THE SPIRIT: When people are united through the Holy Spirit - unified in God's Spirit.

Unity in and of itself is not a good thing! Anytime people unify in total rebellion against the teachings of Christ they are are unified against God.

Congratulations Worldly Vision - your organization is in total unity with satan's grand plan of total acceptance of sodomy!

92 posted on 03/25/2014 4:05:33 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Coronal

Wow. Rick and Bubba are big time promoters of this group. Wonder if this will influence their yearly telethon for them.


93 posted on 03/25/2014 4:12:12 AM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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To: Coronal

Richard Stearns, their President, wrote a book entitled “The Hole in Our Gospel” awhile back that I once picked up and tried to read. In hindsight, this title is pretty prophetic in light of World Visions position on the gay marriage issue. Sadly, the “holes” in the gospel appear to be things they do not agree with and choose to ignore.


94 posted on 03/25/2014 5:31:35 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree, but the continued degradation has to be stopped somewhere. We can’t just say, “Well, we aren’t 100% pure, so let’s just abandon every standard.”


95 posted on 03/25/2014 5:44:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: markomalley

I have a serious question that is along the same lines of government subsidizing religious endeavors.

Government grants and loans are commonly given to students entering exclusively Christian colleges. Why does this not usually affect the core mission and beliefs of colleges?


96 posted on 03/25/2014 6:43:37 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: garjog
I would imagine there are other groups. I was thinking about my sponsored child and if I stopped giving to World Vision, it would be great if another group took over and let me continue supporting the same child.

I'll check out the Convoy of Hope site later as their site has too many pull down menus to check out now.

97 posted on 03/25/2014 7:04:31 AM PDT by scripter
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To: Coronal

I am sure that the father of lies is happy with this development. These people are NOT Christians.


98 posted on 03/25/2014 7:14:19 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: SoFloFreeper

I say don’t treat the issue in isolation, that’s all. If we have a problem with sexual impurity poking its nose into the tent, let’s not assume that such problems that don’t constitute “gay problems” should be off the radar threshold.

The fever of sexual impurity is getting higher in the church and “gay” is only the level it has gotten to. But every degree you can knock off that fever, matters.

Many excuse themselves, I believe, behind the concept that “gay” is an unrecoverable curse. No it is not. It is a bad habit, an arduous task to deal with, but never impossible. It cannot rise higher than Calvary’s cross. Let us look for how that cross can address that problem and purify “untouchable” people from sin.


99 posted on 03/25/2014 7:16:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ohioman

Well this hits me as one of the devil’s clumsier moves. I think WV has been out of touch with its base. Maybe this is a warning signal that the base can’t just throw money over the wall. It needs to look hard at who its servants are. If this brings churches and parachurch ministries closer it will be for a good thing even though the devil didn’t intend it that way. The cobbler’s children shouldn’t be going barefoot.


100 posted on 03/25/2014 7:19:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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