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Malay Mystery: Why its possible that MH370 might have been shot down
Pajamas Media ^ | 03/17/2014 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 03/17/2014 8:17:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Are we sure his wife and 3 kids MOVED OUT, or were they KIDNAPPED BY TERRORISTS who ordered Zaharie to fly somewhere or else they’d all be killed????”

That is what I do not understand. The story broke about them leaving the day before, and no follow up as to where they are or went.

But then the pilot attended a political forum the next day before his flight, so obviously he was not worried at that time.


41 posted on 03/17/2014 10:27:15 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: pfflier

Question pfflier about the transponders. They can be turned off in the cockpit by the pilot, (or someone else), is what I do not understand. Why? Why have this transponder be even capable of being turned off? Why not have it located deep in the plane’s innards somewhere where it would continue it’s ‘work’ and not be available to in flight shenanigans ? Thanks in advance.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 11:05:36 AM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: virgil

So far, just about everything the Malaysian government has said has turned out to be lies, including the words “and” and “the.”


43 posted on 03/17/2014 11:09:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Robe

The theory of shadowing another flight to bask in the other plane’s radar’s signature makes a of of sense.

Both planes are 777s. The Singapore Airlines plane could not see the Malaysian Airlines jet because the transponder was off. The Malaysian Airlines pilot could see the Singapore jet and flew behind and below, and it would all show up as one dot to the military radars.

This theory would also explain why the MH370 plane turned to the west, to get in the trough where the pilot knew the Singapore jet was going to travel.

This theory makes a lot of sense. The plane landed somewhere. And it landed over a week ago. The painstakingly slow release of information is deliberate as multiple governments are trying to spin this out , while figuring out what the heck happened.


44 posted on 03/17/2014 11:22:28 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: virgil

Early TV coverage reported the airliner had a plane closely following it. So something was scrambled or diverted to check it out. Perhaps just a phantom if that is possible because it hasn’t been mentioned since but I don’t watch much TV. Sorry no link or other details.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 11:39:40 AM PDT by mcshot (Their fraud is malignant, deep, unending and perilous.)
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To: bobby.223
ATC Transponders are assigned a specific code number by air traffic control (ATC). The flight crew must set the code into the transponder on the airplane when ATC tells them the code as part of routine departure information. That then becomes the planes unique ID to radar. (that explanation is a little simplified)

Turning off the transponder in the cockpit (yes it can be done)is a moot point. If an improper code is set or the transponder is turned off, the effect is the same. The airplane is not as visible to ATC radar. The plane can be seen but is more difficult to see.

The second type of transponder in question is the Emergency Location Transponder (ELT) sometimes called an ELT beacon. It is powered by it's internal battery and must be disabled by manual disconnection. No cockpit switch for this one. Only someone who knows the airplanes unique systems and configuration can do this. This transponder is typically not easily accessible in flight. In most plane it is located in the tail section because it is most survivable structurally in a crash.

46 posted on 03/17/2014 11:39:48 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: bobby.223

Bobby, the pilot needs to control the transponder at all times. The transponder has four digits. Those digits run from zero to seven. Air traffic control has a finite number of codes that can be assigned. It is a little unusual to change codes during a flight, but not too unusual. I have had as many as seven code changes during one flight. ATC’s computer gets ‘full’ and as I transition from one airspace to another, that local controller asks me to change codes.

Transponders have a four position switch: Off, Standby, On and Altitude (for reporting your altitude to ATC). The pilot needs control because the altitude encoding function might have a problem. He still wants to be identified by ATC, but he has to sacrifice the altitude encoding capability.

And finally, you need to control the power to ANY piece of electronics from the cockpit, either with a switch or a circuit breaker, in case of a malfunction leads to arcing, or overheating and thus an inflight fire.


47 posted on 03/17/2014 12:19:16 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737; pfflier

Great info! Thanks guys!


48 posted on 03/17/2014 12:41:50 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: tanknetter

They still use Crays?

I thought the latest supercomputers were IBM?

Ed


49 posted on 03/17/2014 12:46:05 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

Probably. It’s just Crays are more easily identified with that line of work. So I was using the term generically ... ;-)


50 posted on 03/17/2014 12:55:10 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: B4Ranch

after 9/11, we have to be concerned about missing jet liners as we have seen that they make effective weapons. That’s what all the concern is about IMO and it is increasingly looking like that is a possibility, again, IMO.


51 posted on 03/17/2014 9:40:16 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: tanknetter
Crays are more easily identified with that line of work. So I was using the term generically ... ;-)

Great. You've "Xeroxed" a supercomputer, turned them into Kleenex!

52 posted on 03/18/2014 6:07:42 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Lou L
Great. You've "Xeroxed" a supercomputer, turned them into Kleenex!

I also always order "Cokes", even at places I know serve Pepsi ...
53 posted on 03/18/2014 7:02:36 AM PDT by tanknetter
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