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To: Grzegorz 246
A robust campaign to tell the truth about Crimea is needed to counter Moscow’s lies

As if Washington D.C., the District of Criminals, a.k.a. Mordor on the Potomac, the sodomites in Brussels or their Corporate Media mouthpieces have any more credibility than Moscow.

3 posted on 03/08/2014 11:22:16 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Why do you keep trying to change the subject, Count?


6 posted on 03/08/2014 11:26:34 AM PST by Parmenio
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Actually, the Russian propaganda machine runs circles around ours. Ours are taking notes (ref. another post above).


7 posted on 03/08/2014 11:26:56 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

True. And it seems each side prefers their home grown propaganda to the other guys propaganda.

Our propaganda refuses to admit this “revolution” was anything other than a western funded takedown of an elected government ( like our backing of various Arab Spring stuff ). Its just, like our inability to translate the word “RESET” into Russian, an epic failure. We backed a clown who couldn’t rule and who was out maneuvered by a perfectly predictable outcome.

So the non elected militantly established Ukraine government is supposedly legitimate and the militant response to militant uprising is supposedly an illegitimate response to an “elected government”

Whats particularly amusing to me is hearing people bang on about how bad Russia is for doing precisely what the US has done in many situations in our own hemisphere and in the eastern one too.


8 posted on 03/08/2014 12:02:57 PM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Satellite images would show BS and the Ukraine needs to blow a pipeline to send a message to Russia.
That oil is blood to Russia, so bleed Russia out.


9 posted on 03/08/2014 12:05:25 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Precisely what I was thinking.


10 posted on 03/08/2014 12:06:56 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Changing the subject or not you are right.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 12:10:16 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto; Parmenio
A robust campaign to tell the truth about Crimea is needed to counter Moscow’s lies As if Washington D.C., the District of Criminals, a.k.a. Mordor on the Potomac, the sodomites in Brussels or their Corporate Media mouthpieces have any more credibility than Moscow.

Amen, Count. We are being sold the dumb lie that "Ukraine is all good; Russia is all bad." The enemy of my enemy might still be my enemy. The enemy of my enemy might have a mix of good and bad.

Why can't we just admit that such upheavals MOST OFTEN have a mix of good and bad. We need to be honest about the bad apples and work to get rid of them.

The fact is that 3 high cabinet posts were given to the founder of neo-Nazi party Svoboda and 2 of his cronies. They are national security secretary, defense, deputy prime minister.

National Security & Defense Council Secretary

National Security & Defense Council Secretary

Co-Founder of Svoboda: Andriy Parubiy (43) — A seasoned politician with the Maidan seal of approval, Parubiy has served as a lawmaker in the Verkhovna Rada since 2007, first for Our Ukraine, then for Fatherland. Served as coordinator of the Euromaidan’s Samooborona self-defense forces, and helped negotiate a cease-fire with police following last week's bloodshed. Dmytro Yarosh, the head of the nationalist Right Sector, had been offered a deputy post on the council, but has not yet agreed to the terms. Unlike cabinet ministers, his post was approved by the interim president.

Defense Minister

Rear Admiral Ihor TenyukhRear Admiral Ihor Tenyukh Rear Admiral Ihor Tenyukh Ihor Tenyukh (55) — Rear admiral and former commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Tenyukh provoked Russian animosity in 2008 when he ordered vessels to block the entrance of the Russian Navy to the bay of Sevastopol during the Russia-Georgia War. Two years later, he was dismissed from his position by Yanukovych. Tenyukh played an active role during the Euromaidan protests, calling on members of the armed forces to defy “illegal” orders from the authorities. Lviv native and member of the nationalist Svoboda party.

Deputy Prime Minister

Oleksandr Sych (49) — A member of parliament from the nationalist Svoboda party, Sych has served as the party's longtime ideological chief and the head of its regional organizations in Ivano-Frankivsk. Has worked as a history professor and has authored numerous essays on the history of Ukraine's liberation movement. Coauthored a controversial bill proposing to ban abortion except in instances of medical need or documented rape. Has said women have the right to not get pregnant, but should do so by “leading an orderly life.”

25 posted on 03/08/2014 3:46:58 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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