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Opinion: What the West owes Ukraine
CNN ^ | February 25, 2014 | Timothy Snyder

Posted on 02/26/2014 1:00:53 PM PST by No One Special

A true revolution doesn't come every day. The word "revolution" appears all around us, in commercial advertisements and political propaganda, until it seems to have lost all meaning.

The most minor tumult, the smallest change, and immediately we pronounce the word. And so when the real thing arrives, with tyranny and blood, with masses striving for freedom, with an ancient regime destroyed and a new one born, we might just fail to see its significance.

The spark that began the revolution was something called Europe: a trade agreement with the European Union that many Ukrainians saw as a chance to enter a world of free trade rather than government syndicates, and the rule of law rather than overwhelming corruption. When President Viktor Yanukovych, after months of promised, rejected the deal in November, Ukrainians protested.

The students were the first to reach the "Maidan," the main square of Kiev. They are the ones who already considered themselves Europeans, and took a European future for granted. After the riot police were sent to beat them, they were joined by the "Afghans," the veterans of the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

Then came the businessmen, the professionals, the people who had hoped to make an honest living, but found themselves thwarted by unpredictable taxes and corruption. In December, hundreds of thousands of people, from all parts of the country and all walks of life, were on the streets.

Then Russian President Vladimir Putin appeared with a proposal. Why not take 15 billion euros from Russia instead of playing around with Europe? Although the Russian side promised that the loan was without conditions, Russian leaders then explained that disbursements could only follow when political stability had been established.

In January, President Yanukovych formally did away with basic freedoms. A package of legislation introduced by a...

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Timothy Snyder is Housum professor of history at Yale University and author of "Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin."
1 posted on 02/26/2014 1:00:53 PM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

The U.S. owes nothing to Ukraine. Whatever money is put in there will be stolen, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan.

$16 Trillion in debt is enough.


2 posted on 02/26/2014 1:05:57 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: No One Special

“The West” owes nothing. Ukraine’s neighbors (the U.S. is not one) can feel free to step in and help their neighbor if they desire.
“The West” needs to mind its own collective business. Every time (EVERY TIME) “The West” gets involved, another dictator takes the reigns. “The West” (especially the United States) needs to let Ukraine and every other country sort out their own damn problems.


3 posted on 02/26/2014 1:08:54 PM PST by CPONav
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To: No One Special

We owe it to ourselves to not light off WWIII by injecting ourselves into Russia’s backyard, and a former Soviet state.


4 posted on 02/26/2014 1:09:54 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: No One Special
The spark that began the revolution was something called Europe: a trade agreement with the European Union that many Ukrainians saw as a chance to enter a world of free trade rather than government syndicates, and the rule of law rather than overwhelming corruption

LOL. The Ukrainians should have looked to Spain, Greece, Hungry, and Cyprus to see what happens when a country hands over its sovereignty to the sodomite EU.

5 posted on 02/26/2014 1:15:07 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: No One Special

Sure. Turn the whole thing over to Kerry’s State Department. Do we really hate the Ukrainians that much?


6 posted on 02/26/2014 1:17:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: No One Special

I don’t anything that comes from CNN or this professor, but when they said students, and then Afghans, my tin foil antennas started twitching...something smells like community organizing. Plus, what happened to all that gold in the palace? The president escaped in a helicopter. Tons of it? Why do they need an infusion of cash?


7 posted on 02/26/2014 1:23:17 PM PST by Ms. Blunt
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To: FReepers

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The Great rule of conduct for us,
in regard to foreign Nations
is in extending our commercial relations
to have with them as little political connection as possible.
So far as we have already formed engagements
let them be fulfilled, with perfect good faith.
Here let us stop. . . .
George Washington on Foreign Affairs September 19, 1796

8 posted on 02/26/2014 1:26:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: No One Special

Hmmmm ... some pretty disappointing responses.


9 posted on 02/26/2014 1:34:34 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Billthedrill

And do the bidding of their big brother just like we did after the Holodomor when we gave the USSR diplomatic relations. Try reading the article.


10 posted on 02/26/2014 1:35:04 PM PST by No One Special
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To: Belteshazzar

Disinfo works.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 1:35:59 PM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Try reading my reply. I agree with you, or I did. Now you can kiss it.


12 posted on 02/26/2014 1:36:24 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: No One Special

“Disinfo works.”

Yes, sadly, it does.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 1:37:00 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Billthedrill

BilltheDrill, I said “some pretty disappointing responses,” rather than all, because of your response. That said, perhaps, you should assume that the reply of the original poster was made in haste.


14 posted on 02/26/2014 1:42:28 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: No One Special

Our so-called leader should be more concerned about Venezuela then the Ukraine but he’s Hugo Chivez’s lover.


15 posted on 02/26/2014 1:43:47 PM PST by Vinylly
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To: Belteshazzar

My apologies. Short-tempered today. I happen to hold the Ukrainians in very high regard.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 1:43:58 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Belteshazzar

Yeah.

Who would have expected rationality here at Free Republic?

The liberal press asserts that conservatives are for any war any time.
They lied to you again, there have to be merits outweighing the disadvantages.

No sale on Ukraine interference.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 1:47:27 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Belteshazzar
Hmmmm ... some pretty disappointing responses.

Try using some IMF brain wash...4 out of 5 European central bankers recommend it.

18 posted on 02/26/2014 1:49:58 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Billthedrill

Holding them in high regard does not magically create a new Eurasia that won’t be destabilized by clumsy Islam centered American interventon managed by Odumbo.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 1:50:09 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

So, there is no position to be taken between doing nothing and war?


20 posted on 02/26/2014 1:53:14 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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