Posted on 02/08/2014 8:22:52 AM PST by artichokegrower
Where did that farm water go? That’s a major question stalking California during its record drought.
The finger-pointing sure is under way. On Feb. 4, environmental writer Dan Bacher pointed at state water managers, claiming they made the California drought worse by taking water from Northern California farms and fish and sending it to Southern California cities.
Bacher claimed 827,000 acre-feet of water was sent to Southern California in 2013, where some of it was consumed by cities and some stored in Castaic Lake and Pyramid Lake, both North of Los Angeles. Bacher’s claim evokes the image of another water grab by Los Angeles almost a century ago and dramatized in the move “Chinatown.”
However, Bacher is talking about water from the State Water Project that primarily serves Southern cities, not Central Valley farms where the farm drought has hit the hardest.
(Excerpt) Read more at calwatchdog.com ...
How about Diane Feinstein?
In January I spent 2 weeks in the San Joaquin Valley and drove to Santa Cruz during that period. I was born there, and I’ve never seen the Valley so dry. There is a fine haze of dust that hangs in the air. It’s scary.
Do you mean to say that you advocate central planning, Leviathan, Utopia?
“Desalinization would help the cities and give them less reason to steal the farmer’s water.”
But the key to an economic desalinization system was to provide the power from a nuclear power plant, and we all know just where that’s going.
“Next step: The Great Central Californian Dust Bowl.”
Next step? Have you driven down I 5 from SF to LA lately? There are signs all along the highway pointing out that the land around you is all going to waste because of a lack of water. You know, the “write your congressman” type of signs. Unfortunately, “your congressman” IS the problem, along with the Fed Gov.
It’ll take a few years for the rootstock of the vegetation to decay away, so the dust bowl is still a couple of years off, when there is no longer anything to hold the soil in place.
But if you come crying to me and your fellow citizens to build you a roadway system, a sewer system, or a water supply system, then you'd better be prepared for some central planning, Leviathan and Utopia all rolled up in one. Because your sovereign rights end at your property line, and if you need anything from outside your property line to keep your home or business solvent then you're going to find that "freedom" means exactly that.
it’s an average, so we have to assume it takes in the dirty and extra clean users. still highlights the issues with large movement of people. funny how many in California are NIMBY but are ok with millions moving into their ‘backyard’.....
My backyard is So. Cal
You can’t remove tritium, cesium 134/137, strontium 90 with desalinization. Fukushima has nullified the option.
It does take lots of power. CA is short of power. Fukushima exposed the folly of nuclear power plants. We will never clean that up and there are 400 plants on US soil of the Fukushima design. An EMP attack or Carrington class solar storm will turn many of those 400 plants into Fukushima style meltdowns. We have plenty of coal to keep the lights on.
Well you have 2.6 million new neighbors.
What, the entire Pacific Ocean is radioactive poison? Really? I find that hard to believe.
Your 'facts' stink.
There are about 110 plants in the US. Some are PWR (pressurized water reactors) and some are BWR (boiling water reactors).
“It does take lots of power. CA is short of power.”
California is banking on the surrounding states to provide for us. Because the powers that be are a bunch of NIMBY’s. It’s like not drilling for oil and then expecting to get a good deal from the Arabs. I differ with you on nuclear energy. We need to exploit that technology not curtail it. Technology can solve any existing problems. What it cannot do is force businesses to run nuclear plants with competent operators and good operating methods. TEPCO should be bankrupted for how it was running Fukushima.
But no matter. We need to solve the water problem, instead of building a bullet train to nowhere. But water isn’t sexy to the idiots in Sacto. like a high-speed train is, that is, until there’s a drought. And then it’s too late. The planet has plenty of water, it’s just not always where it needs to be. And I have to second what another poster pointed out. If LA deported all it’s illegals, it would have an effect on our water supply.
Correct. It's been going on for some time. The politicians started jumping on it for political gain. It is bad, as there is very little snowpack on the mountains, as compared to a couple years ago. That snowpack is relied upon for water runoff in the summer. About ten years ago we had a drought that severely lowered local lakes and rivers. So bad then that joggers were using streambeds in San Jose as jogging trails, that were previously flowing rivers. Not as bad right now this year.
Ive been stymied in finding local rainfall totals since thursday.
perhaps its move by the local papers to SELL papers
publish them only in their print versions and not make them available online.
Its been better than five inches...that I know of But I had to empty my collector for fear it would fall off the balcony due to weight.
two inches in the last eight hours is the only data I can find as yet
Don’t know about local rainfall totals, never bother with it. I don’t read let alone buy papers, they’re a joke around here. Rain was coming down hard last night, real stormy. I look at forecasts, have apps on my iPad, but never concerned about what transpired before today. These droughts happen on a cyclic basis, been one about every dozen years as far back as I can recall. In stormy years they’re forgotten. The water crisis is a political fabrication, water fights been going on for 150 years or so in California. The farmers get shafted while L.A. splurges. Water going to the fish would be a non-issue if not for the diversion of water to the south for L.A.
I remember seeing Chinatown several millenia ago...
cycles will come and go..and so will LA...at some point
I hate that ignorant, arrogant woman!
When a delegation from te Sacramento/San Joaquin Valleys visited her in Washington to plead for a way to save what was once the vegetable garden of the entire U.S., from turning to desert in order to save bugs,guppies and bunnies (How will those handle a pronounced drought?) her famous response was...
IT'S THE LAW! DEAL WITH IT!
She probably is unaware that the world famous "peripheral canal" shipping northern water south to Lala land to feed a growing invasion of illegal aliens, those canals lose 50% of the water during its voyage south. Never occurs to the stupid witch (or government moonbeam) to consider replacing the open canal with large pipes eliminating evaporation losses. It makes a lot more sense than creating that moronic supertrain that will create another union bureaucracy to hold the state transportation hostage every 3 to 5 years.
Isn't making up your own statistics and facts fun?
Why not say there are 20,000 of them, if you're going to pull numbers out of your butt?
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