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A GOP Immigration Plan to Satisfy No One
The American Conservative ^ | January 27, 2014 | W. JAMES ANTLE III

Posted on 01/27/2014 8:37:40 AM PST by OddLane

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To: Paine in the Neck
Any bill that does not accomplish these five things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty.

Any bill that allows the lawbreakers to stay and work here--the object of their crime--is amnesty. A path to citizenship is just the cherry on top.

We also need to drastically reduce legal immigration. We don't need 1.2 million legal immigrants a year, most of whom are poor and uneducated.

21 posted on 01/27/2014 9:42:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: OddLane

All Real Conservatives, and most common sense Americans...want the borders secured and all Illegal Aliens deported.

It’s just the bleeding heart liberals, the Open Borders - Free Trader One World Third Way Globalists, and the ethnic racist groups, that want Illegal Alien Amnesty.

All the money of the latter never overcomes the reality of the former


22 posted on 01/27/2014 9:43:04 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Taking Any Bets That Obama's Real Average Is Higher (than the 9.85 shown in the chart)?

I've seen estimates that put it above at almost 25%.

Also, this.

23 posted on 01/27/2014 10:02:21 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

There was an article last week that put it at 37.2%. I believe that.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 10:03:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Paine in the Neck
There was an article last week that put it at 37.2%. I believe that.

I remember reading it; but I couldn't find the reference to link in my previous post.
In any case. the idea of expanding immigration is utterly idiotic.
I'm in agreement with Paine when he considers us to be already in the middle of an invasion; in fact, a governor with balls could force the issue nationally, as well as driving the fedgov into a checkmated position.

25 posted on 01/27/2014 10:08:53 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OddLane

Well, when you consider the fact the GOPe is playing to lose, I’d say they learned their lessons perfectly well.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 10:12:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: OneWingedShark

Obama’s whole purpose is the destruction of America. He is a Predator President.


27 posted on 01/27/2014 10:17:24 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"Well, when you consider the fact the GOPe is playing to lose, I’d say they learned their lessons perfectly well."

Should be obvious by now that the RNC's "job" is to rake in donations while losing just enough elections to have zero accountability but winning just enough to prevent a legitimate opposition party from rising up.
28 posted on 01/27/2014 2:06:49 PM PST by CowboyJay (Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
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To: CowboyJay

Sort of like Bill Bidwell and the AZ Cardinals, right?


29 posted on 01/27/2014 3:03:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
Sort of like Bill Bidwell and the AZ Cardinals, right?

Or maybe the Washington Generals?
30 posted on 01/27/2014 3:13:00 PM PST by CowboyJay (Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
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To: CowboyJay

Except the Cards purport to be a real team, and foolish people in Phoenix expect them to try to win. Like GOPe.


31 posted on 01/27/2014 3:17:30 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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32 posted on 01/27/2014 3:20:06 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: grania
About that hispanic vote....think of how much of it the ‘pubs could get if Cruz is the presidential nominee.

Probably no more than 6%.

33 posted on 01/27/2014 6:26:46 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The Democrats will kill any bill in the Senate that doesn't match their own.

No, the democrats will get it to conference and pass their own bill and it will return to the House where the Amnesty RINOs will join the democrats and pass it.

34 posted on 01/27/2014 8:01:57 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Oldexpat

I thought Cruz only got 40% against the white liberal Democrat.


35 posted on 01/27/2014 8:53:43 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: itsahoot
The GOP is not planning to send any bill to committee, they are trying to construct an immigration bill in pieces.
36 posted on 01/27/2014 9:28:12 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The GOP is not planning to send any bill to committee

They weren't planning on losing in 12 either, but here we are. Immigration should not even be under discussion other than enforce current law.

37 posted on 01/27/2014 10:53:00 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

I agree that Immigration shouldn’t be even discussed, but no matter those idiots what they come up it is going to be killed in the Democrat Senate, unless they go to committee, which is what they are intending to avoid (according to Ryan)


38 posted on 01/28/2014 12:41:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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