Posted on 01/10/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty
A month after a small plane crash in Hawaii, a surviving passenger shows GoPro footage and even a selfie taken during the ordeal.
Would you have done the same? Ferdinand Puentes was one of nine passengers in a 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan which suddenly suffered engine failure off Kalaupapa, Molokai in Hawaii last month. As he heard the engine fail and saw the plane heading for the water, one of his first instincts was to turn on his GoPro camera and film what might have been his own demise. As KHON-TV reports, Puentes knew the danger he was in, yet the decision to film as much as possible might perplex a few. He managed to get out of the plane alive and survived the crash. However, while he was floating on a seat cushion and wearing his life raft, he took a selfie.
Was the impulse to record just a natural reaction? After all, any bystander or news organization would have likely done the same thing. And these days everyone is using their phones to film just about everything they see. But wouldn't one's first instinct be to try to contact family and friends to say goodbye? Perhaps that did happen. The footage reflects a quite stunning lack of panic. The passengers behave in an orderly manner. There is no screaming or pushing. No one seems frantic at all. Loretta Fuddy, Hawaii's 65-year-old state director of health, died in the crash, despite managing to leave the plane. In watching Puentes talk to KHON-TV, though, it's evident that the footage brings back painful memories. Would everyone want to have such ready access to a reminder? Or would some prefer to forget? "You could have died," Puentes told KHON-TV. "There's so much variations that could have happened for the worse."
Doing some recaps. All this chatter about protocols and what the rescuers should have done. Recent images show her in the water stretched out taut and LONG. You know what that indicates?
RIGOR MORTIS! She’s as stiff as a board.
I think the rescue crew might have noticed, and moved on.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3110483/posts?page=728#728
more fracture of turbine blades here
and at #724
Rigor mortis sets in after a couple hours.
It seems like you’re grasping at any possible straw you can find, and I’m wondering why.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/rigor_mortis.aspx
it’s simply a learning process:
“...Temperature is an important factor in determining the time of onset of rigor. In normal circumstances and at room temperature rigor is complete in about three to six hours. If the temperature is higher the onset is more rapid — perhaps no more than an hour in tropical temperatures...”
Have a look at Google Images for drowning victims, nicely laid out straight as a board, some of them.
By the time PJ Ornott got there she supposedly would have been dead in the water maybe 45 minutes. In 79-degree water with her body not producing heat, that would probably be similar to room temperature. So about 3-6 hours. Not likely in 45 minutes.
Of course, if it’s a mannikin it could be stiff as a board immediately, to be passed over as if it had rigor mortis even though rigor mortis was impossible for the actual scenario...
Come now, don’t take it so seriously, I’m just curious, I recall when the nursing home where my mother was in the last few months of life, called me to say come as soon as you can...
She was still alive when they called.
It took LESS than an hour to get there. When my sister and I arrived, she had passed on and when I touched her on the thigh, she was already stiff, which gave me a shock.
It was in March, in a tropical region of Australia. Warm day, not hot.
Jim, you’re a doctor. How long would it take for rigor mortis to set in for a woman floating in a lifejacket in 79-degree water?
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