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Obama Channeling Pope Francis to Sell Wealth Redistribution
Breitbart ^ | 12/26/13 | Robert Wilde

Posted on 12/26/2013 1:33:38 PM PST by Nachum

President Obama is using Pope Francis to foster wealth redistribution ideas in his speeches on the importance of reducing the gap between rich and poor.

Now that the President’s message of “Hope and Change” has drastically soured over his last few years in office, Obama is hoping the popular pontiff’s vitality will rub off on him. Michael Peppard, a professor of politics and the papacy at Fordham University, posits, "I think Obama probably wants to tap into some of the energy, and tap into some of it for his own message."

Obama quoted Francis in a recent speech on fiscal policy this month: "How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses 2 points?" Although the President has tangled with the Catholic Church on a variety of issues, most notably the contraceptive provisions in the Affordable Care Act, Obama now sees the Pope as an ally.

Larry Snyder, President of Catholic Charities, is distrustful of Obama embedding Francis’s words into his political speeches. "The danger I see in it is that the pope is not a politician," he cautioned. "When the pope speaks, there's a consistent teaching. And the danger would be other people pick and choose, 'I like this, but I don't like that.'”

Obama has employed a “pick and choose approach” when it comes to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Expressing values antithetical to the teachings of the Catholic Church, the President has announced his approval for gay marriage and is an advocate of abortion. However, Obama views Pope Francis as like-minded when it comes to social issues of immigration or increasing funding for welfare programs. In December, Obama told MSNBC that Francis was an "extraordinarily thoughtful

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1 posted on 12/26/2013 1:33:38 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 12/26/2013 1:34:28 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

That’s what happens when a pope messes in politics. This lesson should have been learned back in the Middle Ages, but apparently we have to make the same mistakes over and over.


3 posted on 12/26/2013 1:39:41 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Nachum
Not surprising that he will use the Pope to spread his coercive redistribution of other people's earnings ideology!

At a National Prayer Breakfast, Obama arrogantly misappropriated Jesus's spiritual challenge to individuals, claiming those words as validating and authorizing abusive use of coercive power by himself and his cronies to "take" from some in order to buy votes and accumulate more power to themselves--all in the name of "helping" the beneficiaries of such unconstitutional "takings."

Hear Samuel Adams:

"Is it now high time for the people of this country to explicitly declare whether they will be free men or slaves. It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent, it is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice.” - Samuel Adams

4 posted on 12/26/2013 1:41:21 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Nachum
IMO it's much,*much* different for a Pope to "peddle" wealth redistribution than it is for the likes of Osama Obama to do it.My understanding of Christ's teachings (10.5 years of Catholic school) clearly shows that charity was at the top of His list of vital responsibilities for His flowers...along with several other things.I have no problem with any Christian clergyman reminding me of this...particularly if that clergyman doesn't mention government,or taxes and doesn't express support for Marxist politicians while so doing.

Being told by Osama Obama & Pals,OTOH,that I "didn't build that"....well,I think I should take my blood pressure meds before I continue.

5 posted on 12/26/2013 1:43:04 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Fine. But will he “channel” the Pope’s anti-abortion, anti-euthanasia, anti homosexual marriage messages as well?


6 posted on 12/26/2013 1:46:26 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Godwin1
Fine. But will he “channel” the Pope’s anti-abortion, anti-euthanasia, anti homosexual marriage messages as well?

May I assume that that's a rhetorical question?

7 posted on 12/26/2013 1:48:02 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Nachum
The Pope's only worldly role is to remind secular authorities of their moral duties.

It is considered his "indirect" authority in the affairs of the world.

His direct authority is only within the Catholic Church.

8 posted on 12/26/2013 1:48:36 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our PRE-EXISTING HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

An income tax is not the same as a wealth tax.

Income is for workers, and an income tax is a tax on the acquisition of wealth.

A wealth tax is a tax on current assets.

Now do you expect that those “wealthy democRAT donors” are going to support a wealth tax, or a raise in income taxes.

The true goal of an income tax is to inhibit the ability to acquire wealth, not to redistribute wealth from those who already have it.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 1:56:39 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: txrefugee

“That’s what happens when a pope messes in politics. This lesson should have been learned back in the Middle Ages, but apparently we have to make the same mistakes over and over.”

Don’t worry, when the Pope learns what has been happening to Sunday donations for the past few years he may clarify his remarks. We can’t render unto God what Caesar has seized for re-distribution.


10 posted on 12/26/2013 2:10:06 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: txrefugee
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."

Hegel.

11 posted on 12/26/2013 2:13:44 PM PST by doberville
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To: kearnyirish2

Redistribution = theft

No way around that.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 2:14:57 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Ouderkirk
The true goal of an income tax is to inhibit the ability to acquire wealth, not to redistribute wealth from those who already have it.

Strictly speaking I suspect that there's truth in what you say.My having mentioned "taxes" in an earlier post was meant in the broader sense....that being that the Rats think that you and I,but not Soros,have *far* too much and they want to give a good chunk of what we earn,and *have* earned,to "the most vulnerable among us" so that those "vulnerable" ones will vote for *them*.In addition to preventing the likes of *us* becoming "wealthy" they *do* want to redistribute wealth....just not their own.

13 posted on 12/26/2013 2:15:12 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: MrB

“Redistribution = theft

No way around that.”

No argument here!


14 posted on 12/26/2013 2:27:13 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Oh, no. What they want is to keep working people working. That way the unwashed masses don’t have the resources to “invade and defile” their favorite haunts like Jackson Hole, Martha’s Vineyard, Palm Beach, etc.

If you were to develop the next “pet rock” fad with a finite lifetime, all that you earned would be income subject to a confiscatory tax. Thus, you could never generate enough “income after taxes” to develop real wealth. Even though your new pet rock idea if left untaxed would leave you with the resources to not have to work for the rest of your life and maybe some of your direct descendents as well.

Tax it, and sufficiently high enough, you end up having to work all of your life. Generating more “income tax revenue” and not have the free time or disposable resources to counter their leftist schemes.


15 posted on 12/26/2013 2:30:00 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Nachum

Hitler and Stalin were big on wealth redistribution


16 posted on 12/26/2013 2:31:28 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Nachum

I would love to go back to the 1800s and tell Marx, the man who disparaged and mocked religion that his biggest champion in 2014 is the Catholic Pope.

I’m sure Karl would get a kick out of that.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 2:44:52 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Nachum

I’m sure it would be too much to ask Obama and the Federal Reserve to stop the Financial Repression which keeps my savings earning next to nothing while transferring $500 billion, mostly to the biggest banks, from savers like me and from pensioners? Obama and friends are some of the biggest reasons why our distorted crony capital system is boosting those who control the financial system while squashing the little guy through financial repression, central planning, market distortions, unwise and excessive regulations, favoritism, uncontrolled entitlement spending, etc., etc., etc...

They are burning the house down while promising that they and only they can and will put the fire out.


18 posted on 12/26/2013 2:46:33 PM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: Nachum

This one’s easy.
Obama does not have the moral authority to lecture anyone about anything.


19 posted on 12/26/2013 3:16:37 PM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Nachum

I am all for it let us start by rechanneling the wealth of rich Liberals to the rest of us.


20 posted on 12/26/2013 3:47:16 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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