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Obama administration relaxes rules of health-care law four days before deadline
Washington Post ^ | 12/19/13 | Amy Goldstein

Posted on 12/19/2013 6:44:10 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

The Obama administration Thursday night significantly relaxed the rules of the health-care law for millions of consumers whose individual insurance policies have been canceled, saying they could buy bare-bones health plans or entirely avoid the requirement that most Americans have health insurance.

The surprise announcement, four days before the Dec. 23 deadline for people to choose coverage that begins on Jan. 1, triggered an immediate backlash from the health insurance industry and raised new fairness questions about a law intended to promote affordable and comprehensive coverage.

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To: SoFloFreeper

“It’s the law of the land” as determined by the Kremlin. If you disagree with the Kremlin you will be sent to Siberia along with the other racists.


81 posted on 12/20/2013 3:44:57 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: reformed_democrat

I’d take Clueless Joe over the Communist we have now.


82 posted on 12/20/2013 4:34:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Nextrush
Nothing has changed, the fact remains no one wants Obamacare!

They can't sell it because it because they don't understand the law of marginal utility, people allocate resources based on need and then want.

Obamacare is too high priced for the young to change their priorities and buy it instead of something else they want more.

If they aren't giving it away, it is going to fail.

83 posted on 12/20/2013 4:50:48 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: itssme

The only thing that needs to be done is not buy it!


84 posted on 12/20/2013 4:52:25 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Does anybody know if Congress GAVE Obama the power to change this law on a whim?

Since nobody read it, I just would like to know if that provision is in there.

Did Congress abdicate their power to the Preezy?


85 posted on 12/20/2013 5:07:44 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Sequoyah101
Out of 40 houses on our street 5 are decorated for Christmas. The spirit is about dead. A simple, hard working, decent woman told me today, “We never have known what the future would bring but now we are pretty sure whatever it is will be bad.”

I feel much the same; tired of the daily dose of government BS as they continuously interfere with and upset out lives. No predictability. No hope. No standard. No rule of law. Rule by daily whim and based on political pull.

Remember the 80s? Remember when the future looked bright? Remember women with big hair? God, I miss those days.

86 posted on 12/20/2013 5:28:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Venturer

“Democrats could see the tar and feather buckets on the way to Capitol Hill.”

Your going to have to put the Republicans in there as
well. They are just as responsible. After all they are part
of the democrat party now. All their opposition was fake
just to get elected which makes them just as big a liars
as Obama. There are exceptions but only a few.


87 posted on 12/20/2013 5:30:36 AM PST by Slambat
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To: SoFloFreeper
More fiat law-making by the executive branch. Amazing.

What truly is AMAZING is the Congress - which the framers put in charge of mischief oversight of Article 2 - does nothing, absolutely nothing, but hold hearings. NOTHING.

Americans understand all too well that the FED GOV is broken beyond repair, and IMHO that is why they have not risen up in numbers. Wait until America's 21st century king comes for their guns..........
88 posted on 12/20/2013 5:55:14 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The one thing to take from this new “rule relaxation” is that it may have just opened the door for the Tax Lawsuits that the Roberts decision set up.

The SCOTUS decision clearly stated that the Individual Mandate was a TAX! Well by exempting a select portion of citizens (those whose insurance was cancelled) HHS and Obama have just opened the entire barn, not just the door, for UNEQUAL REPRESENTATION and TAXATION lawsuits.

With this one little rule change Obama may have just doomed his own signature legislation.


89 posted on 12/20/2013 6:16:58 AM PST by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: A CA Guy

Exactly!

One can’t get through the website...

One can’t trust the navigator with your info...

And the insurance companies had/have extinguished these types of policies.


90 posted on 12/20/2013 6:30:45 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Either the law applies equally to everyone or scrap the POS.

Let the lawsuits begin.


91 posted on 12/20/2013 6:37:05 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: La Lydia
Are they lying about both situations?

His lips are moving>

92 posted on 12/20/2013 7:14:30 AM PST by cpdiii
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To: plain talk
The PP & ACA law itself tops 2300 pages. So far, there are more than 20,000 pages of regulations.

My private policy bc/bs (not obamacare) sends me a small booklet every year explaining my policy. It is not written in govementese but plain English. I can understand it. They also include any changes etc.

93 posted on 12/20/2013 7:19:38 AM PST by cpdiii
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To: hattend

re: Did Congress give Obama power to change this law on a whim?

Don’t quote me here — but as I remember the Law gives the Secretary of HHS complete power to make changes in the law.
Perhaps it is written as “changes in procedures” - don’t know. I remember reading that a few months back and amazed at the time of the power given to HHS.

Anyone know about that?


94 posted on 12/20/2013 7:22:43 AM PST by bunster
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To: fortheDeclaration; itssme

“The only thing that needs to be done is not buy it!”
bears repeating!
the way to win this game is to not play


95 posted on 12/20/2013 7:42:32 AM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: nascarnation

BWAHAHAHAHA!


96 posted on 12/20/2013 8:09:45 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: rbg81
Obama through the Health Care industry stooges under the bus? Imagine my complete lack of surprise.

Those who dance with the devil get burnt.

97 posted on 12/20/2013 8:21:58 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SoFloFreeper
I guess that ‘pajamaboy” ad wasn't as effective as they hoped.
98 posted on 12/20/2013 8:38:41 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
If they aren't giving it away, it is going to fail.

Yep. All those who supported it thought someone else was going to be paying for it. They were shocked when they found out they were those "other people.".

Every election the democrats have to give something away using other peoples money. Otherwise, the freeloaders won't bother to get out of bed to vote. This time, they thought they were getting free health care. They fell for the biggest political lie of the decade - but it worked for the demnocrat politicians. That's all that mattered (because the end justifies the means).

99 posted on 12/20/2013 8:41:37 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Have we become so constitutionally illiterate that America's citizens no longer understand there is no fix for tyranny?

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

So-called "progressives" understand the "divided" part of Madison's cautionary words, but the rest of us seem to ignore the rest of Madison's statement.

Might it have something to do with our not having been "well-instructed" in the ideas of freedom?

Edmund Burke, in his 1775 "Speech on Conciliation," observed the following "spirit" in the founding generations:

"Permit me, Sir, to add another circumstance in our colonies, which contributes no mean part towards the growth and effect of this untractable spirit. I mean their education. In no country perhaps in the world is the law so general a study. The profession itself is numerous and powerful; and in most provinces it takes the lead. The greater number of the deputies sent to the congress were lawyers. But all who read, and most do read, endeavour to obtain some smattering in that science. I have been told by an eminent bookseller, that in no branch of his business, after tracts of popular devotion, were so many books as those on the law exported to the plantations. The colonists have now fallen into the way of printing them for their own use. I hear that they have sold nearly as many of Blackstone's Commentaries in America as in England. General Gage marks out this disposition very particularly in a letter on your table. He states, that all the people in his government are lawyers, or smatterers in law; and that in Boston they have been enabled, by successful chicane, wholly to evade many parts of one of your capital penal constitutions. The smartness of debate will say, that this knowledge ought to teach them more clearly the rights of legislature, their obligations to obedience, and the penalties of rebellion. All this is mighty well. But my honourable and learned friend on the floor, who condescends to mark what I say for animadversion, will disdain that ground. He has heard, as well as I, that when great honours and great emoluments do not win over this knowledge to the service of the state, it is a formidable adversary to government. If the spirit be not tamed and broken by these happy methods, it is stubborn and litigious. Abeunt studia in mores. This study renders men acute, inquisitive, dexterous, prompt in attack, ready in defence, full of resources. In other countries, the people, more simple, and of a less mercurial cast, judge of an ill principle in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil, and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principle. They augur misgovernment at a distance; and snuff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze." (Underlining added for emphasis)

Burke also declared to the Parliament that what he called the colonists' "fierce spirit of liberty" also must be attributed to their "religion," "under a variety of denominations agreeing in nothing but in the communion of the spirit of liberty."

100 posted on 12/20/2013 8:43:22 AM PST by loveliberty2
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