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Senate Dems Favor Illegal Aliens over Disabled Vets
Daily Caller ^ | 12/18/2013 | Caroline May

Posted on 12/18/2013 6:19:59 AM PST by safetysign

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To: Mr Rogers; RFEngineer
Military pensions are pre-funded. Every year since 1984, the Dept of Defense has set aside money for future retirement costs. That trust fund has been very well managed, and is in the black. Unlike almost every other government program, it is expected to remain in the black forever - there is no indication that the trust fund will ever fall short of what is needed.

Belive it or not, some people here on FR don't get that. They're okay with funding the "poor" while robbing those who actually did something for this country because, they claim, military pensions are bankrupting America. Go figure.

21 posted on 12/18/2013 8:33:58 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: cizinec

“Belive it or not, some people here on FR don’t get that.”

What you don’t get is that the “well managed and in the black” set aside money was “invested” in “Non-Negotiable Government Bonds” - in other words it was spent, while they pretended to “invest” it.

They are the same sort of bonds the Social Security “Trust” fund was invested in.

They are bonds whose sole existence is to launder government “trust” funds so that they can be spent in the here and now.

The end result is that ALL government benefits - including Social Security, Military Retirements, etc. must be funded with CURRENT YEAR FUNDS. When current year funds are insufficient, we borrow the difference. When we can’t borrow any more (and who knows when that day arrives) they get a big haircut or they stop.

It’s the reality of being broke. “Pre-funded” is tantamount to putting money in a 401k and then borrowing it all back and spending it.

Sure, you have a retirement plan, but there is no real money in it.


22 posted on 12/18/2013 8:46:11 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: safetysign

Because they know the wet backs will vote for them not the veterans expect more such actions to ensue.


23 posted on 12/18/2013 8:48:53 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: ImNotLying

You’d better believe that the Vets of North Carolina are aware of her slippery tactics! Her tuckus will be fried in the next Senatorial election, never fear!


24 posted on 12/18/2013 9:27:07 AM PST by NCDragon ( Americans will always do the right thing, after they've exhausted all the alternatives. WC)
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To: RFEngineer

Unlike Social Security, this was money that could have been spent on then current pay or equipment back in 1984?


25 posted on 12/18/2013 11:35:31 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: RFEngineer

So, they set aside money for military retirement in the Defense Budget, but all they did was issue paper. That would make the Defense budget look bigger than it really was. I don’t recall Pat Schroeder saying anything about that back then when she was ranting about the Defense Budget.


26 posted on 12/18/2013 11:46:42 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

“This was money that could have been spent on then current pay or equipment back in 1984?”

Oh, they spent it.....


27 posted on 12/18/2013 2:07:30 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: grania

It’s 7:30 p.m., and Mark Levin has been tearing apart those Republicans who voted for this. The only consolation that I can see (hopefully, I’m hearing this right) is that it won’t go into effect for 2 years. If nothing else, veterans will have time to adjust their income in that time. I won’t say anything about taking over the Senate by then for it to change, because I don’t count on that at all.


28 posted on 12/18/2013 4:37:49 PM PST by Humal
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To: Paine in the Neck
Do not forget that the House GOP, led by John Boehner and Paul Ryan, handed the 'Rat Senate the opportunity to do this.

And don't forget that several leading Republican Seantor's voted for this as well. IMO this is a test piece of legislation to gauge the amount of support and opposition to taking on the veterans and the VA budget for us veterans. This IMO will not be the last attempt at attacking veterans down the road, mark my word.

29 posted on 12/19/2013 10:30:59 AM PST by Ron H. (Impeach Obama.)
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To: grania
.... How does Ryan sleep at night?

Ryan is showing his true colors more and more everyday yet there are many (even around here) in the movement still look upon his as some kind of savior. Ryan is not to be trusted IMHO. He speaks with forked tongue.

30 posted on 12/19/2013 10:34:52 AM PST by Ron H. (Impeach Obama.)
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To: Humal

We’re seeing the results of fewer veterans returning home and not running for office on the national stage.


31 posted on 12/19/2013 10:37:18 AM PST by Ron H. (Impeach Obama.)
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To: Ron H.

I think it should be mandatory that anyone running for public office should have spent time in the military, even women. The Israeli’s require all young people to serve, and look at the difference between their leaders and some of ours.


32 posted on 12/19/2013 3:30:34 PM PST by Humal
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To: Humal

Why don’t we require the wetbacks to serve before getting benefits?


33 posted on 12/21/2013 4:56:39 AM PST by safetysign
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To: safetysign

I would support illegals to serve before being allowed to become citizens, THEN, maybe, get benefits. In spite of what John McCain says, they haven’t earned benefits otherwise.


34 posted on 12/21/2013 10:09:08 PM PST by Humal
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