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The Hottest Electric Vehicles Leave Winter Drivers Out in the Cold
The Daily Caller ^ | 12/14/13 | Giuseppe Macri

Posted on 12/14/2013 3:59:04 PM PST by chiller

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To: chiller

The dreaded Gibbs-Helmholtz equation strikes again.


321 posted on 12/15/2013 5:24:55 PM PST by stboz
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To: Reaganez

I oppose electric cars because they leave people vulnerable in critical emergencies every time.

They’re ok for 2-3 mile trips, but nothing else.

Your war against oil is insane.


322 posted on 12/15/2013 6:13:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Football games.


323 posted on 12/15/2013 6:17:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well said!


324 posted on 12/15/2013 6:31:15 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: editor-surveyor

I completely agree that electric cars are crap, but I have noticed something of redeeming value in hybrids...minus the huge battery pack.


325 posted on 12/15/2013 6:32:02 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Your jihad to keep funding America’s enemies with American dollars is insane.

I have had my Model S for almost a year without ever being left stranded.

I start every day with about 270 miles worth of range after unplugging my car in the garage.

I usually drive 40-60 miles per day.

I took a trip from Los Angels to Vancouver(about 1300 miles one way) using Tesla’s supercharger network without any additional charge other than the price of the car. If I had purchased a Cadillac CTS-V it would have cost about $600 for gas.


326 posted on 12/15/2013 6:45:42 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: Reaganez

You obviously love your subsidized life.

I daily fight against your ideology.

FreeRepublic is dedicated to fighting your ideology.


327 posted on 12/15/2013 7:32:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

But hybrids cannot function without the battery pack.

The $10,000 tune-up.


328 posted on 12/15/2013 7:34:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Well, I'm not impressed with the battery pack nor appearance of the wierd looking hybrids, but one thing does impress me.

I am somewhat of an automotive luddite, I hate ABS, TPMS, a PCM, COPs, remote locking, burglar alarms, and most other black boxes and hyper-engineered doo-dads that make modern cars expensive and flakey. I think they had it about right with OBDII and crank-fire ignition.

I don't even like automatic transmissions, especially computer shifted ones....which brings me to my point.

Imagine a "hybrid" with just two big batteries, like those found on a tractor-trailer rig.

As a byproduct of their misguided thinking, what the engineers have done is replaced the transmission with a simple, fool-proof, relatively inexpensive electric motor...properly sized per vehicle, it could easily never wear out.

The hybrid then would be using much the same technology as a locomotive. A small displacement turbo engine, the same type of speed controller, and a couple of batteries to smooth things out when it starts from a dead stop....

You might not even need the batteries, just one to start the engine.

It sounds like an automotive mad-scientist experiment once these things hit the junkyards needing battery packs.

329 posted on 12/15/2013 7:51:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: editor-surveyor
But hybrids cannot function without the battery pack.

And I guess my main point is....maybe they could.

330 posted on 12/15/2013 7:52:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

If they were diesels they would be able to idle efficiently, and then the electric drive would effectively be the transmission in an efficient car, but the recovery of braking energy is where Toyota gets its milage.


331 posted on 12/15/2013 8:26:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
the recovery of braking energy is where Toyota gets its milage.

I think that is more of a theory than a practice, unless they use capacitors or some other method to store it. Batteries can't accept all that charge unless maybe you were going down a mountain.

Once, before hybrids, they were working with a flywheel concept, where the flywheel ran in a vacuum at kitchen blender-like RPMs, It had a motor/generator attached through a gearbox and when you put on the "brakes" by reversing the drive motor/generators, it would rev up the flywheel.

Then when you accelerated, the flywheel would become a generator and provide acceleration. They would have you either plug it in overnight to keep the flywheel running, or have it on a timer so it would be ready to go to work in the morning.

The flywheel/gas engine hybrid would be a pretty good experiment too, except the flywheel motor/generator is a little above the pay grade of your average automotive mad-scientist.

332 posted on 12/15/2013 8:40:58 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: editor-surveyor

ROTFLMAO .My life is not subsidized I pay waaaay more in Federal and State income taxes than I receive in benefits.

Every person that buys a gas powered car buys it from a company receiving corporate welfare. From bailouts to loans to tax breaks to build factories.

Free Republic is not dedicated to a jihad to weaken America and strengthen America’s enemies which you have evidently joined whole heartedly.


333 posted on 12/15/2013 8:44:20 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
In the case of the Chevy Volt, there appears to be Waste Heat aplenty . . .

The Chevrolet Volt Cooling/Heating Systems Explained
334 posted on 12/15/2013 8:49:29 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Reaganez

You are a web of subsidy.

An Obama Zombie

Bet you use Progressive insurance too.


335 posted on 12/15/2013 8:52:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Its the motor.


336 posted on 12/15/2013 8:54:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Are you a Wahabi or Shia?

Member of the Revolutionary Guard or Al Qaeda ?

That is the only possible explanation.


337 posted on 12/15/2013 9:06:42 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; All

I think there are long heating tapes that you can run along or wrap around your plumbing pipes, and plug in, to prevent pipes freezing.


338 posted on 12/18/2013 11:37:48 PM PST by gleeaikin
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heating tapes that you can run along or wrap around your plumbing pipes

Yes, I just thought the roof cables might be a little better suited. And fiberglass insulation.

339 posted on 12/19/2013 6:06:14 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: BraveMan
In the case of the Chevy Volt, there appears to be Waste Heat aplenty . . .

Waste? What'd you expect, it's from Government Motors.

Thanks for reminding us of yet another one of O'Bomber's failures.

340 posted on 12/19/2013 6:09:52 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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