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End looms for US Air Force's 'Warthog' ground-attack jet
AFP ^ | 12/12/13 | Mathieu Rabechault

Posted on 12/12/2013 3:48:56 PM PST by DemforBush

Washington (AFP) - Long disliked by the US Air Force, the A-10 Thunderbolt II ground-attack jet may finally be heading for the chopping block due to budget constraints...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a10; aerospace; airforce; bhodod; budgetcuts; cas; defensespending; usaf; warthog
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To: InsidiousMongo

“No plane built today is as tough and can fly low and slow like the A-10, while still returning from a mission.”

Pretty well sums up the Air Force “jet jocks” adversity to it ... can fly low and slow!


61 posted on 12/12/2013 5:20:55 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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To: Frapster

The warthog was all shot up and she came back fine if memory serves. :)

Sorry, I knew what ya meant, sometimes I just get bored and my primal _hole just comes out. ;)


62 posted on 12/12/2013 5:25:20 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: DemforBush

The A-10 was a great plane for ground attack but it is now very vulnerable to being shot down. I know it has a titanium tub surrounding the pilot and also protecting the engines but that is not enough to do much good any more.

For the newer surface to air missiles it is a sitting duck.


63 posted on 12/12/2013 5:27:42 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: xzins

I have never read it...I will check it out. Thanks for the suggestion!


64 posted on 12/12/2013 5:29:37 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: driftdiver
You’re pretty low class aren’t ya

No, just a Marine with buddies that were at Nasiryiah.

Oh yeah, and I successfully passed the armor recognition tests - the same ones provided to pilots, which after the fact it was discovered percentage wise seemed to be an issue for a lot of the pilots.

I'd say it's low class that you don't have the pride in your trade to learn how to identify friend from foe, before I ever called someone low class for pointing out piss poor performance and making a "mistake" that kills over a dozen Marines.

Really piss poor when you consider the Warthog was designed specifically for CAS.

So, I'd rather the USAF pilots worry about the basics - like what friendlies look like before worrying about the latest whizz-bang neato gadgetry they can get.

65 posted on 12/12/2013 5:30:34 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: GeronL

What is worse, in my opinion, is the spiritual, moral and tradition gutting that is taking place.

We can always replace equipment (as Reagan showed us) but once they have installed non-meritocracy based “leaders” homosexuals, affirmative action appointees and pliable liberals in the military, and purged it of all institutional memory of excellence and purpose, it will be finished, and so will we.


66 posted on 12/12/2013 5:34:47 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: DemforBush

“Darn good plane. And I don’t care what anyone else says, I think it’s a beautiful design.”

The people who came back in one with bullet holes and pieces of wings missing from it think that it’s fantastically gorgeous.

It’s also extremely popular as a model or remote-control plane, especially in large scale.

Still, it’s getting increasingly vulnerable to more and more accessible MANPADs...but I spoke to a few pilots at an air show, and they told me that you do NOT want to stand above ground (much less holding and aiming a weapon) when they are in the air above...and under battle conditions, they work in (at least) pairs...


67 posted on 12/12/2013 5:40:20 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Repeat Offender

That was in all probability a weapons failure; not the jet or the pilot. The reason it was never investigated was the government made a “state secrets declaration.”


68 posted on 12/12/2013 5:45:08 PM PST by saminfl
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To: Repeat Offender

Like I said low class


69 posted on 12/12/2013 5:53:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: saminfl

Air force leaders don’t see it as a fighter.


70 posted on 12/12/2013 5:54:28 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DemforBush

Being involved with the A-10 doesn’t result in lucrative post-military employment. It will be killed in favor of programs that do offer post-military employment.


71 posted on 12/12/2013 6:05:30 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: GreyFriar

Damned shame. They ought to give it to the Army.


72 posted on 12/12/2013 6:21:09 PM PST by zot
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To: saminfl
That was in all probability a weapons failure; not the jet or the pilot.

ummm, no.

73 posted on 12/12/2013 6:42:43 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Iron Munro

Too slow, and not glamorous enough.

Plus, it doesn’t cost enpugh so there is little room fo payoffs and kickbacks.


Bingo! It’s too simple and functional. The military industrial complex prefers money pits like the Osprey.


74 posted on 12/12/2013 6:48:49 PM PST by Flick Lives (Greetings from District 12!)
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To: real saxophonist
I explained to her what they were, what they did and that they usually work in pairs, when the second one flew over.

In Pairs Eh...?

A tactic developed by the Luftwaffe in WWII ....enables quick cross over turns.....

75 posted on 12/12/2013 7:03:43 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Iron Munro

Plus, it doesn’t cost enpugh so there is little room fo payoffs and kickbacks.
***Good enough place to bump this thread.


76 posted on 12/12/2013 7:55:20 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: real saxophonist
I was jogging on a road in Myrtle Beach one Saturday in July 1989. People on that road that beautiful morning were buzzed by a flight of Warthogs. These A-10s were assigned to a squadron at Myrtle Beach AFB, SC. Aircraft from that squadron were on the ground the following week in Saudi Arabia in support of Operation Desert Shield.

I had learned a year or so earlier at the O Club at Howard AFB, Panama, that it is not a wise idea to try to match Warthog pilots drink for drink.

77 posted on 12/12/2013 7:57:48 PM PST by Ax
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To: DemforBush

Sound of grey_whiskers in mourning...
(whimper)
NO cheers, unfortunately.


78 posted on 12/12/2013 8:16:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mastador1

No prob, it made me laugh when I retread my original post.


79 posted on 12/12/2013 9:15:03 PM PST by Frapster (frak)
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To: hadaclueonce

I bet the Israeli Airforce would love to buy a few of these.
Would even the odds. And Knowing the Israelis, they would improve the hell out of it.


80 posted on 12/12/2013 10:31:14 PM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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