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I WANT TEXAS TO SECEDE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THERE IS NO PROOF WE CAN'T DO IT.
Cooking With Chef Carlo ^ | Carlo3b

Posted on 12/08/2013 8:52:07 AM PST by carlo3b

I know many on this site will look at this and think it is one more crackpot talking nonsense.. That may not be entirely wrong, but I am not a crackpot, and my attitude is shared by too many intelligent folks that are entirely fed-up with the direction we are going..

Texas is suffering from our own success.. We are attracting the disaffected millions, from failed governments around the country, to our state because of our business friendly atmosphere, low taxation, low costs, great weather, and great opportunities..

All of that would be fine, if the newcomers would leave their failed liberal political views behind, which they obviously won't do.. There may not be much time before we are overrun with morons with enough numbers to risk the future.. Secession may be the only solution, if it is a solution at all..

I seek your comments..


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KEYWORDS: succession; texas
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To: stockpirate

I hear ya! :)


21 posted on 12/08/2013 9:04:46 AM PST by carlo3b (RUFFLE FEATHERS, and destroy their FEATHER NEST!)
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To: Fiddlstix

Texas ping


22 posted on 12/08/2013 9:07:18 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You must be in North Texas. So am I, and totally iced in. Got cabin fever.


23 posted on 12/08/2013 9:08:26 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, great weather. Can’t get to my car, couldn’t open it if I could (frozen shut) and couldn’t drive on the roads if I could get it started. LOL

I know my son in Dallas is getting crazy, he's stuck in the house.. Tomorrow we'll be in shorts again.. LOL

24 posted on 12/08/2013 9:08:33 AM PST by carlo3b (RUFFLE FEATHERS, and destroy their FEATHER NEST!)
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To: Kip Russell

I would totally agree ... :-) ...


25 posted on 12/08/2013 9:10:31 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: carlo3b

I would be glad to just split the country. Liberals have their states, taxes and laws, conservatives have their states, taxes and laws. Wonder which one will survive?


26 posted on 12/08/2013 9:10:58 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Scoutmaster
However, the proof we can't secede

According to some law?

Was it "legal" for the colonies to "secede" from England?

When the time comes, we won't be looking for permission, cobber.

27 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:03 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: don-o

Believe me, if we could get several thousand to stop paying taxes, we would do it, and start the ball rolling.. It may be getting closer than we think.. Believe me you should talk to the folks around here..


28 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:07 AM PST by carlo3b (RUFFLE FEATHERS, and destroy their FEATHER NEST!)
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To: carlo3b

We crackpots are always the last to find out. But ask a liberal.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: carlo3b

There is the sticky wicket of many majors metro areas/population ctrs being infested with leftist control over govt and its apparatuses which act as a leverage multiplier, to borough a finance analogy, beyond their true numbers...that’s a huge impediment when you consider the deliverable resources they control and assets to deploy as they see fit.


30 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:34 AM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: carlo3b

When I was a kid learning Texas history in school, I remember being told that because of the terms under which Texas joined the union in the first place, it was the only state that could legally secede should it ever wish to do so.

But I would not be able to discuss it intelligently beyond what I learned in 6th grade. :)

But secession won’t do you any good if you wind up with the same nonsense you get from Washington. Free market constitutionalists are only a bare majority where they are a majority. If the schools are in the hands of socialists, you are guaranteed to lose that majority in a decade or two. Demographics are, in that case, destiny.


31 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:45 AM PST by marron
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To: carlo3b

If the problem are liberals flocking to conservative Texas then how would secession help? If a seceeded Texas is a success and thee are plenty of jobs would not liberals flock there as well? No matter what — you always have to have the votes.

Are there any public officials seriously calling for secession? I doubt it.


32 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:46 AM PST by plain talk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same here. We are watching old movies to kill the time. good news..... some of our icicles are beginning to melt.


33 posted on 12/08/2013 9:12:53 AM PST by bonfire
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To: carlo3b
OK Kip, another opinion, great, but what are the facts.. I’m serious!

As am I. It's a fact that modern talk of secession has been, up to now, essentially idle speculation. Neither the Democratic nor the Republican parties are about to push for it in any meaningful way. While there has been a recent "secession" movement in Colorado, it's a push to split Colorado into two states, not to secede from the Union.

And in any case, the Colorado movement is going nowhere, just as talk of Texas leaving the Union is just that...talk.

34 posted on 12/08/2013 9:13:35 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tuffydoodle

Me too. yuck.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 9:13:42 AM PST by bonfire
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To: cripplecreek
Sam Houston was right.

I know, I was too busy that day to attend, but I heard about it.. LOL

36 posted on 12/08/2013 9:14:09 AM PST by carlo3b (RUFFLE FEATHERS, and destroy their FEATHER NEST!)
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To: carlo3b

Expect generals with a history of mental illness (like Sherman ) and severe alcoholism (like Grant) to bring bloodshed and misery on your civilians people.


37 posted on 12/08/2013 9:16:00 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: carlo3b
"Didn’t turn out so well then..."

Texas could secede. The Republic of Texas joined the United States as a sovereign nation via a treaty. All parties to a treaty have the right to nullify a treaty. There is a procedure that must be followed but Texas can legally nullify the treaty which binds it to the USA. Also the USA could nullify the treaty binding Texas and Texas would then be expelled from the union. Texas, via the same treaty, has the right to divide in 5 separate states and could then sent 10 senators to DC instead of just 2.

Texas has lots of options but as you point out, with the masses of northerners flooding Texas we will most likely be a blue state in the near future. Already the once solid red Harris county (Texas most populace county) has turned blue.

38 posted on 12/08/2013 9:18:40 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: TheBattman
I think that was tried about 150 years ago... Didn’t turn out so well then...

We need more of a 1776 than an 1861.

39 posted on 12/08/2013 9:20:18 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: carlo3b
I'd just recommend uniting with some other like minded states.

Just give me time to move to one first.

40 posted on 12/08/2013 9:20:44 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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