Posted on 12/01/2013 9:49:24 PM PST by servo1969
I am one who steers very clear of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. I often believe progressives plant stories in order to distract and disrupt, enabling them to pursue their true goals and objectives. That’s why I stress the importance of staying focused on the modern liberal socialist policies of the Obama administration, not the sideshow antics.
However, as a former combat commander, I have been trained to look for trends. And I believe we’ve found a very disturbing one. it seems that back door gun control is in full effect in the United States. Why? Thanks to Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), we can no longer smelt lead from ore in the United States.
The first contact the EPA made with The Doe Run Lead Smelter in Herculaneum, Missouri (population 2,800) was in 2008 but it was in 2010 that the EPA finally forced Doe Run to plan a shut down. This plant has been in operation since 1892 but will finally close its doors this month. It was the last lead smelting plant in the US.
The closedown is due to new extremely tight air quality restrictions placed on this specific plant. President Obama and his EPA raised the regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply.
In response to the Doe Run lead smelter shutdown, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the Doe Run Company “made a business decision” to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act.
Of course this is why we need serious regulatory reform that precludes executive agency fiat, especially regulation implementation that exceeds a certain adverse financial impact to a private sector business.
Of course the canned progressive socialist response is “For years families with children near Doe Run’s facilities have been exposed to unacceptable levels of lead, one of the most dangerous neurotoxins in the environment,” said Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for the EPA’s Office of Compliance and Enforcement Assurance. There are a few auxiliary lead processing plants remaining in the USA but their function is to re-claim lead from old batteries.
What this all means is that after December 2013, any ammunition that will be available to US citizens will have to be imported, which will surely increase the price and possibly come under government control. It seems this is fully in concert with the US Military and Homeland Defense recent purchase of large quantities of ammunition.
The effect is chilling: you can own all the guns you want, but if you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck. Remember when President Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes? Welcome to it. The result is that all domestically mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US.
Not only will ammo be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more. And ponder this, there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from the government instituting an ammo registration.
There hasn’t been a peep about this in the major news outlets, but it’s done. With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China.
China is the largest miner of lead and the largest importer of scrap lead in the world. The highly progressive state of California recently passed a law that lead ammo is banned for sporting use. There is an alternative, copper ammo, but it is hugely expensive to make, and pure copper bullets are frequently labeled ‘cop killers’ so they can’t be sold.
So America, back door gun control is moving forward and while we are all distracted with Obamacare and Iran nuclear negotiations, our Second Amendment rights are undergoing an assault by clandestine infiltration. Remember we reported on this website the gun registration actions being undertaken in Washington DC. Barack Obama and his progressive socialist acolytes are quite savvy at political chess. He is seeking to outflank, envelope, and destroy the Second Amendment. Now it’s our move in 2014.
the loner/mountain cabin manifesto crowd may not care but this has to be a readily available product. The overseers have no fear of a kook in a cabin.
If it is so common, so universal as to be uncontrolable, then the slavers are in fear.
Just what I've heard.
I can see the steam part... If the battery can be charged, you should probably charge it first before you pour off the h2so4. This converts most of the lead sulfide in the plate to acid leaving less in the plates. then heat the plates up at low heat to dry them out good.
What I’ve heard is add the plates, THEN turn on the heat. Dropping the plates into already hot lead causes the dangerous condition I described. So I’ve heard - again, no experience.
On a standard car battery at the time of manufacture the negative plates are filled with lead oxide which is known as “red lead” and the negative plates are filled with lead dioxide also known as “spongy” lead. Basically the active materials absorbs sulfate from the acid during discharge and give up the sulfate while the battery is being recharged.
Although the lead can be recovered from car batteries... it is a more complicated process than simply taking them apart and melting them down. This is too bad because I have dozens of old car batteries and I cast my own bullets. So don't think that I haven't thought of it. If you know of plans for a simple way to recover the lead I would love to give it a try. ; )
Me also.
No shortage of lead in the world...mostly as a by-product of silver-zinc mining. They mine scads of it in South America, especially Peru and in northern Idaho in the Silver Valley.
Not quite. The positive side is lead dioxide a/k/a "red lead". The negative side is "spongy lead," which is just finely divided lead metal. Discharge converts lead dioxide to lead(II) ions, acid to water, and lead metal to lead(II) ions. The lead(II) precipitates out as lead sulfate.
Charging does the reverse.
I've read that it's near impossible to make bullets from battery lead, because the acid is impossible to remove completely. The only thing battery lead is good for is to make new batteries.
I'd think lead being molten white-hot would cover it.
By the way, I really like your car. What is it?
I suppose the reason such easily verified information is being disputed here is because the discussion has been simplified somewhat for brevity. But when the battery is components are being manufactured the positive plates are filled with a paste made mostly of “red lead” which is lead oxide. The negative plates are filled with a paste made mostly of “spongy lead” which is another name for lead oxide. It is not “finely divided lead metal” Their are of course other additives mixed in to the pastes to help increase the life of the battery. If you don’t believe me I suggest you look it up.
It is nearly impossible to make bullets from “battery lead” because much of the battery is not made of lead. Lead is an element in the periodic table. It can be mixed with other metals to make alloys. Alloys are not formed by combining metals with acids. There is no metal alloy known as “battery lead” that I have ever heard of.
The real problem with trying to extract the lead from batteries full of oxides and sulfates is that they are far more toxic than lead itself. Lead poisoning is generally the result of contact with lead oxides.
Sorry you are right about the “spongy lead”. My last post has so many typos that I am confusing myself.
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