Just one more....HIDDEN IN PLAIN VIEW: The Zapruder Film and the Shot that Missed

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/scearce.htm ^ | November 27th, 2007 | Kenneth R. Scearce

[BuckeyeTexan]

All you need to do to understand how Oswald’s shots fit “back and to the left” is read Mark Fuhrman’s book. He examines, reviews, & explains it perfectly. In fact, he uncovers ballistics evidence that was hidden in plain sight for 40 years. It’s case closed after you read his book.

[Lmo56]

How many, if any, cartridges remained in the mag well after he put it down and left the depository?

On one of the history specials last week, they stated that 3 spent cartridges were found on the floor - one left in the rifle ...

[InABunkerUnderSF]

I saw the same Zapruder film and saw clearly that the exit wound was on the front of Kennedy's skull, meaning the bullet came from behind, you know, where they found the rifle.

Whether you believe it was E. Howard Hunt on the grassy knoll, the CIA, the Mafia, the Teamsters, the military, "right wing extremists", Richard Nixon or little green men from area 51, all Kennedy conspiracy theories exist for the same purpose - to exonerating the Oswald and to deflect from the fact that a communist assassinated the President.

[InABunkerUnderSF]

3 spent cartridges were found on the floor - one left in the rifle

Interesting. The Carcano feeds from a 6 round en-block clip. You tend to load them a clip at a time, like a Garand. Italian milsurp ammo comes in 18 round packs, pre loaded into the clips.

We know Oswald fired one round at General Eddie Walker in April. (In that instance the 6.5mm bullet deflected when it passed through a window pane from 30 yards away.) I suppose he may have never reloaded but that would still leave one round unaccounted for.

[deks]

BACK, and to the left... explain “back, and to the left”

It is clearly shown at the link below that Kennedy's head moves forward when hit...as you can see in the Zapruder film, frames 312 to 313 [WARNING - GRAPHIC] . . .

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100shot5.html

[Doc Savage]

The fact that Oswald acted alone would not preclude a separate entity from controlling him. He could be the lone shooter controlled by clandestine operatives of the FBI or the CIA, or LBJ. One never knows

[Windflier]

Kill shot came from front right of limo...whether it was the grassy knoll or beyond it.

Isn't it amazing that the photographic evidence which proves Kennedy was killed by a shot from the front has existed for 50 years, yet we still have people (on this very forum!) who doggedly cling to the government approved kill theory?

Blows my mind that so many people can reject such incontrovertible visual evidence.

[InABunkerUnderSF]

That's right comrade! Even if Comrade Lee must be sacrificed, deflect all guilt from the party onto the reactionary forces themselves.

/end_sarc

[Windflier]

Kennedy's head moves forward when hit...as you can see in the Zapruder film

Watch the film carefully. Kennedy's head was already moving in a forward direction (as though he were slumping over from the first shot from behind) when the second bullet hits him in the forehead.

A split second after that happens, his head jerks back violently, which is exactly what you'd expect a human head to do when being penetrated by a high powered round from the front.

[deks]

For Oliver Stone fans this might be interesting, here’s the link - “BACK and to the left” is #86. . .

The JFK 100 - One Hundred Errors of Fact and Judgment in Oliver Stone’s JFK

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100menu.html

[21twelve]

Seeing that photo - I wonder if that is what prompted my dad (always drove station wagons) to buy a 1964 Impala convertible?

“Honey - come quick. Look - they shot the President!”

(”Hmm - cool cars!”)

My old man didn’t like the Kennedys.

[ansel12]

Gosh, that was convincing.

[cynwoody]

It was set up by higher powers. Ruby was NO distraught patriot-killing Oswald out of love for his dead President.

So, what did Jack think would happen next after he shot Oswald, assuming, that is, that alert Dallas officers didn't shoot him dead at the scene instead of merely arresting him for murder I? What was Jack Ruby's plan?

There's a guy named John Elrod, who claims to have shared a cell with Oswald at Dallas Police HQ. He claimed Oswald told him he had met with Jack Ruby a few days before in connection with some gun-running scheme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soF14oKklto

The official story is that Oswald didn't have a cellmate, that he was isolated in a cellblock that was otherwise empty except for a Dallas copper sitting on a chair in the hall.

[deks]

Thank you for your reply. To me, Kennedy’s head appears to be still at the moment of the head shot (see the small motion picture on the right in the link below).

Then the stop motion of two frames shows that his head snaps sharply forward in about 1/18 of a second when hit - that is the time from frame 312 to 313 (the Zapruder film is about 18 frames per second according to a source).

http://users.skynet.be/mar/Eng/Headshot/back&left-eng.htm#Sommet

[3Fingas]

Good question. They would be able to compare the unfired cartridge/bullets to those recovered. On that matter, I believe Oswald was the lone assassin. The only thing that puzzles me though, is the behavior of the “kill” shot. The “magic bullet” that was found was FMJ. However, the brain area had bullet fragments, not a solid bullet found. This is very puzzling to me. Unless, Oswald used different kinds of ammo.

[tophat9000]

You dont play pool and understanding a glancing hit do you...the head went back and to the left because the mass of the head was back of were the bullet hit.....the front right of he head was blown out ..go to pool table and shoot a ball in that same spot from behind right and watch the ball go back and to the left

If the shot was straight shot from the front right it would have blowen out the left back of the head also

[HMS Surprise]

Dead wrong, but I’m sure you sleep well at night regardless.

[Windflier]

To me, Kennedy’s head appears to be still at the moment of the head shot (see the small motion picture on the right in the link below).

True, but that looped clip shows Kennedy after the first shot was fired. He'd already slumped forward, and you can clearly see Jackie reaching over to him in reaction to it.

One thing the clip clearly does show, is the violent backward motion of JFK's head at the moment of the second shot. A kinetic force applied from the rear is physically incapable of causing that reaction. If the head shot came from the rear, JFK should have been propelled forward, which we don't see.

[nikos1121]

I’m not sure what youre trying to say here, that three shots could not have been fired that quickly and accurately.

Fact is, it’s been proved you cold do this.

Please, stop all themental masturbation out there and what Nova’s

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

[John S Mosby]

Very true, on TV. But not according to world experts in forensics and human physiological/neurological response to a gunshot. There are volumes about this subject. “What you’d expect” is verbage from movie watching supposition, without benefit of study or knowledge.

Of useful note is the time oswald had to set up the shot, the rising elevation of the vehicle (prez. head) and falling away in distance-— combined to provide a virtually “steady” position of the target for a sufficient period of time. A tragedy.