Posted on 10/26/2013 1:04:01 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
Cops took no more than 10 seconds to fire six or seven shots into the body of dying teenager Andy Lopez after seeing him with a toy pellet gun. Mr Lopez was spotted by deputies on Tuesday afternoon in Santa Rosa, California, carrying the toy rifle, which they mistakenly thought was a real assault weapon. The time that elapsed between when officers reported the sighting to dispatch and then reported shots fired was only 10 seconds. Hundreds of local residents marched on Wednesday night to remember the popular teen and protest at the senseless shooting. They chanted 'We need justice' as they questioned how the deputies could mistake a pellet gun for an assault rifle.According to a police statement, Lopez was twice instructed to put down his weapon, officers opened fire after he failed to comply - only 10 seconds later. Sixteen seconds later, the cops radioed for medical assistance. Ethan Oliver, who lives across the street, told KTVU.com that the deputies continued to shoot at the boy, even after he had fallen to the ground. Oliver said he went outside after hearing two gun shots and by that time Lopez was already on the ground. ‘Then the cops went at it again and unloaded like six to seven shots,’ he said.When asked if he meant that the deputy shot Lopez while he was on the ground, Oliver said, ‘Yeah. Exactly what I saw.’ Authorities haven't responded to his claims, but it raises the possibility that Lopez was still alive when he hit the ground after the first two shots were fired.
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Chilling Matt....indeed
Indeed....exactly
“If you were confronted with an unknown person, would you wait 10 seconds before protecting yourself”
Actually they were not confronted by the child with the toy. THEY CONFRONTED HIM. When you confront someone, yes even police are required to wait longer to see what is going on, than if the child had confronted them.
So you like kids with toys getting killed. Got it.
Key point. The ten eeconds here was between radio calls. So they pulled up called it in, got out of the car, yelled drop it twice, shot him, and then radioed it in. All in 10 seconds. They had decided to shoot before they even stopped. They panicked and chose poorly.
So everyone carrying a gun should be shot?
Wait. You mean dogs and the mentally ill are good for target practise...
Because the shooting is still being actively investigated, both as a police matter and as a potential civil rights case.
Why didn't the kid just drop the gun when he was ordered to do so by police?
The evidence speaks for itself. I, myself , do not like it, but you got to go back to the facts.
That’s a good question. Another good question is, why didn’t he drop it when Ismael Mondragon told him “throw that thing away, the cops are right behind you”?
There may not be any dashcam in that car, or if there is, the confrontation could have taken place off to one side of its field of view.
A big question might be:
Was that the order they gave him or was it "turn around, put your hands up and drop the gun."
Apparently he did turn around and might have been in the process of complying with the rest and as he was raising his hands over his head the barrel of the gun inadvertently pointed in the direction of the police and that was all they needed to say they felt threatened and fill him full of lead.
Why didn't the police give him more time to comply with whatever their order was???
Another good question is how come Ismaelo Mondragon knew that it was a toy he was carrying and the police didn't??
There may not be any dashcam in that car, or if there is, the confrontation could have taken place off to one side of its field of view.
Well wouldn't that be convenient but I doubt it.
The kid was shot in the back and several more rounds were fired at him when he was already on the ground. I find that disturbing.
“Why didn’t the kid just drop the gun when he was ordered to do so by police?”
It wasn’t a gun. Why don’t you get that? So when ordered from behind to drop the gun or the weapon a 13 year old might well have not know what the cop was talking about or even who the cop was yelling at. He might have even turned around to see who was yelling.
If the dash cam video backed up the officer’s story we would already have seen it, I suspect. Even if it wasn’t in the field of view, there’s audio.
“If the dash cam video backed up the officer’s story we would already have seen it, I suspect.”
That is usually the case. Also by what right are they keeping the shooter’s and his partner’s names from the public?
They would not be keeping our name from the public. Sounds like someone is getting special treatment.
There’s an eye witness (a neighbor) to the shooting, and he says the cops fired several rounds into the kid after he was already on the ground.
http://m.ktvu.com/news/news/national/dozens-march-remember-boy-killed-deputies/nbXW9/
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