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Experts stunned at cost for Healthcare.gov website development
My FOX-TV DC ^ | October 22, 2013

Posted on 10/22/2013 6:05:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

“My overall sense, right from day one, was it was created by people who had never created a commercial database application before," said FMS Software developer Luke Chung.

Chung looked over the site and was stunned by the code and the cost - by some estimates, perhaps $200 million.

Chung continued, “At $200 an hour, that would be a million man hours, 5,000 man years. I don't think they had time to use 5,000 man years. So I don't know where the money went. I don't know what these people were doing. There're not that many web pages. I don't get it! Where'd the money go?"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; cgifederal; failure; fundingtheleft; healthcaredotgov; obamacare; obamacaregraphics; obamacaresoftware; obamacarewebsite; pricetag; rinocare; slushfund
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Urinating on US taxpayers.
1 posted on 10/22/2013 6:05:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s called back door reparations... it’s never been about healthcare.


2 posted on 10/22/2013 6:07:45 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Where’d the money go?”

To Obama’s cronies and supporters.

Next question?


3 posted on 10/22/2013 6:07:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Follow that money, Congress.


4 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:01 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

corruption

check the bank accounts of anyone near the thing

check barack hussein obama’s bank account

check simple sebilius’ bank account


5 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:05 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The money went where it always does, into donor’s pockets to be laundered and returned to “the party.”


6 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:13 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Silly techie. The money went to someone who promised a kick-back to the Democrats’ campaign fund so they can pay for votes in next year’s House elections. Then Obama can rule the country as planned by Soros and Company.


7 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:25 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: dps.inspect

Vengeance.

He’s really not about helping the self-defined oppressed.
He’s about “punishing” those he defines as oppressors.


8 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We’re just gonna simplify the process and make it a single payer plan.

¬obama


10 posted on 10/22/2013 6:10:17 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: dps.inspect

This is the logical end result of a system where those people who write the laws are in essence their own watchdogs, which leads to failure every time.


11 posted on 10/22/2013 6:11:42 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
" Urinating on US taxpayers."

Nope, they will tell us it's just a pre-spring rain.

Just wait until the crapper comes and they tell us it's just hail coming down.
12 posted on 10/22/2013 6:12:51 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The real cost of this website has been added to the Benghazi secret files, its being made public would hurt national security.
13 posted on 10/22/2013 6:13:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: MrB
“Where’d the money go?”

Zimbabwe ?
14 posted on 10/22/2013 6:14:03 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: txrefugee

I heard it was a $22k donation that netted the $200 million contract.


15 posted on 10/22/2013 6:14:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
My special friend, who is a woman of color, and tends somewhat toward liberal thinking absolutely blasted the administration last night on Obamacare.

Her point was that Amazon handles more transactions, much better, and makes money doing it, and didn't cost the tax-payer half a billion dollars.

The liberals are beginning to lose some around the edges with Obamacare.

/johnny

16 posted on 10/22/2013 6:14:19 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve been in IT since the early 80’s. When I heard how much this effort cost, my jaw dropped. The cost was absurd, by a couple of orders of magnitude.

And that is assuming that the final product would have worked well.


17 posted on 10/22/2013 6:15:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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They should have gone with Intuit. Intuit handles millions of tax returns and keeps up with tax laws annually etc. IMO, would have been a perfect match for a fraction of the cost with a company that knows how to deliver in pressure situations.

Of course I hate the law completely....but if it was my job to pick the subcontractor for the site design, Intuit would be one of the first companies I'd talk to.
18 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:16 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Somebody needs to take a CLOSE LOOK at the contracts, not just for development but also for planning and testing. That will tell much of the story. Who did what and at what cost?

Don’t be surprised if some of the contract files and records are missing.


19 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:23 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: dps.inspect

I’d look in the bank accounts of the DNC for that money.


20 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:36 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: dps.inspect

I know people who work in the health insurance industry, CGI has long been a laughing-stock. People who work in health-IT know that you couldn’t trust CGI to competently create a Facebook status update.

CGI got a no-bid contract because they donated to the Obama campaign. Unfortunately this will most likely not be reported about in the MSM, and no question about this will ever be asked in the White House briefing room or at a Presidential press conference.

Damn those extremist Republicans whose government shut-down caused all these problems!


21 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:45 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: MrB

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3081967/posts


22 posted on 10/22/2013 6:19:38 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t think it was all code alone. There were probably hardware purchases, new telco drops and software licensing fee’s involved as well. But yeah, this one has a stink on it that isn’t going away anytime soon.


23 posted on 10/22/2013 6:21:27 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: cuban leaf
The more money they say they need to " fix it " the more we know it really has problems and will not be able to fix.
When you look at it ? it might be just a slush fund.
Congress really needs to investigate just where all that money really went.
24 posted on 10/22/2013 6:21:49 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: corlorde

Great point. Agencies no long just execute the programs, they define them and serve as their own watchdogs. That is exactly what is going on.


25 posted on 10/22/2013 6:22:05 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: MrB

Yup. Obama cronies and Democrats across the US.


26 posted on 10/22/2013 6:22:52 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Starboard

You remember during the last election how we were told the Democrats had such great voter tracking and contact software? How it was much better and more high tech than anybody had ever seen before? How people were saying, Wow where did that come from, must have cost a fortune. Remember that?


27 posted on 10/22/2013 6:23:59 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: American Constitutionalist

Congress really needs to investigate just where all that money really went.

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Where is the new “fix” money coming from? They might need another $200 million or so because this is not going to be a one-time fix. There will be remediation work and then ongoing system maintenance and “enhancements” that will essentially be never ending. What is the source for this new money?


28 posted on 10/22/2013 6:25:28 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
OBAMACARE .... a Kenyan Internet Email scam.

OBAMACARE .... far out scams the scam of even a Nigerian email scam.
29 posted on 10/22/2013 6:26:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Old North State

I wondered the same thing.

How many of the obamacare website programmers were paid by CGI but REALLY worked on his re-election campaign database project instead?

How much of the obamacare website money really ended up IN his election campaign coffers instead.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 6:28:33 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Old North State

I think Representative Maxine Waters let the cat out of the bag on that one.


31 posted on 10/22/2013 6:29:34 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who’s going to investigate? I good chunk of the Pubbies are on the take as well.


32 posted on 10/22/2013 6:29:43 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: Starboard
" Where is the new “fix” money coming from? "

That " fix money " for that website will be given to Obama's cronies without us knowing about it, that's for sure.
33 posted on 10/22/2013 6:31:56 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Congress needs to investigate? They are in on the scam, they are feathering their own nests with this money


34 posted on 10/22/2013 6:34:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A million man-hours equals 5,000 man-years? Must be nice to have a job where you only work 200 hours a year.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 6:36:39 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: MrB
raised debt ceiling to infinity and 1st day borrowed 350 billion dollars? WTF?

There is something fishy going on here and it is not just emanating from Hillary's under-thingies!

36 posted on 10/22/2013 6:37:10 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

It would make a good career for an Independent Prosecutor to follow the money and prosecute the perps who are stealing it. It would take a professional lifetime.


37 posted on 10/22/2013 6:38:14 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Yup. Obama cronies and Democrats across the US.

This point should be hammered home...relentlessly!

38 posted on 10/22/2013 6:38:25 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I would love to see all the people who were “paid” to develop this. Probably a cornucopia of Obama friends and other oddballs.
Maybe some actually know how to write code?
39 posted on 10/22/2013 6:39:11 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Under the Democrats; the Lincoln Memorial is closed; but the southern border is open)
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To: MrB
“Where’d the money go?”

To Obama’s cronies and supporters.

Next question?


The Program was written by “seasoned Obama political campaign IT operatives.”

I am far more interested to know what trojans they hid in those 5 million lines of code than where the money went. The moneys been stolen by pros and we are not getting it back but the code can cause serious problems going forward as it's been written from the perspective of being a political tool, not a health care provision system.

Kind of like the rest of ObamaCare.

40 posted on 10/22/2013 6:42:05 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Congress should investigate where the money went.


41 posted on 10/22/2013 6:42:15 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Old North State

Good point...they should have just had the people who run the NSA set this up and operate it.


42 posted on 10/22/2013 6:44:01 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“At $200 an hour, that would be a million man hours, 5,000 man years."

Yes, read it and weep. This is typical for anything that Washington puts its hands on.

43 posted on 10/22/2013 6:44:26 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

For the mathematically challenged, it comes out to 500 people working for a year at $200/hour.


44 posted on 10/22/2013 6:45:57 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So I don't know where the money went. I don't know what these people were doing.

Welcome to Obamacare 101.

45 posted on 10/22/2013 6:46:04 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And that is how the gubmint intent to run your healthcare.

Next question.


46 posted on 10/22/2013 6:48:01 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I don't get it! Where'd the money go?

He doesn't get it? Seriously? After a 5-year-long communist assault on the Constitution?

This gets so depressing.

47 posted on 10/22/2013 6:48:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Old North State
You remember during the last election how we were told the Democrats had such great voter tracking and contact software? How it was much better and more high tech than anybody had ever seen before? How people were saying, Wow where did that come from, must have cost a fortune. Remember that?


According to the recent reports, the HealthCare.gov website program was written by “seasoned Obama political campaign IT operatives.” and not and not qualified software developers experienced for this type of application.

The reason given for their employment was to avoid Republican subpoenas

Kind of makes you wonder

48 posted on 10/22/2013 6:49:33 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: privatedrive

Really not that outrageous for a project of this magnitude.

Except, of course, for the fact that it doesn’t work.


49 posted on 10/22/2013 6:49:35 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just like all the other guvmit “jobs” that were created out of the blue for this Kenyan.
They are given to his bros from the ghetto, his freinds from ‘kill whitey’ church, his campaign contributors, Laqueesha the single mom with 9 kids now making $70k a year at her guvmit desk.

I guarantee every person involved in th creation of that website is a minority and had no job before this and no past experience. Affirmative action hires, every one.


50 posted on 10/22/2013 6:49:52 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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