Exempt Me, Too!

Townhall.com ^ | October 1, 2013 | Tim Phillips

[TexasCajun]

What do we want!!?

Equal Protection!!

When do we want it!!?

Now!!

What do we want...

[Timber Rattler]

Rat congressman Jim Moran was on WMAL this morning and actually tried to defend why his staff was so special that they deserved an exemption from this monstrosity. It was infuriating listening to this hypocrite.

[Jack Hydrazine]

I think the Amish and aboriginal Americans are exempt.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/28/white-house-publishes-final-regulations-for-obamacares-individual-mandate-seven-things-you-need-to-know/

5. Many older individuals will be exempt from the mandate

If you need to buy insurance on your own, you’re exempt from the individual mandate if the cost of your coverage is more than 8 percent of your household income. (The percentage is adjusted, over time, using a somewhat complex formula.) This means many older people—who pay higher premiums than younger people—will be exempt from the mandate altogether.

6. If you don’t file a tax return, you’re exempt

You’re also exempt if your income is below the poverty line, or if you don’t file an IRS tax return. Indeed, if you add up all of these exemptions, MIT economist and Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber estimates that 40 percent of people who are uninsured are exempt from the individual mandate.

7. ‘Members of recognized religious sects’ and American Indians are also exempt

If you’re a member of a “federally-recognized Indian tribe,” congratulations! You’re also exempt from the individual mandate. This is in part because the Indian Health Service offers government-run health care to members of such tribes. Members of a “recognized religious sect or division,” as specified in Section 1402(g)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code, are also exempt. So, you might be asking yourself: which “religious sects” are exempt?

The Internal Revenue Code exempts an individual from certain taxes if he is “a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care,” including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Your “sect” has to have been in continuous existence since December 31, 1950, and the Commissioner of Social Security must agree that your sect “has the established tenets or teachings” consistent with opposition to medical benefits. While there are some on the Internet who believe that this religious exemption applies to Islam, it doesn’t appear that way to me, as Muslims are not exempt from Social Security. Instead, the exemption is meant for groups like the Amish.

So if you really hate the individual mandate, you don’t have to burn your Obamacare card—just join the Amish or an Indian tribe!

[Wurlitzer]

If we still had a functioning Constitution we should demand that EVERYONE be fully subjected to all laws and regulations passed by the Federal Government.

The only exemption the founders intended was freedom from being sued for speech on the House or Senate floor so our representatives would be free to openly debate issues. They, as so typical of government, expanded that exclusion to include just about anything they want!

Instead we have ruling elite who are not subjected to the laws they pass.

How much further are “We The People” to allow this government to exceed its Constitutional boundaries before we exercise the Thomas Jefferson escape clause?

[Carry_Okie]

I’ve got a better idea: The exemptions and waivers are illegal. Exempt no one, NOW.

[Kaslin]

Muslims are too, if I am not mistaken. Courtesy of the arrogant pos of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave

[Kaslin]

Right on

[Jack Hydrazine]

From what I have read that is an urban myth.

[Grampa Dave]

Comments by Rush Limbaugh and Rand Paul:

"I mean, can you imagine a defund Obamacare effort, how much more likelihood it might hold if members of Congress really were upset with how much it was gonna cost 'em? But then Obama came up and took care of that. He's gonna subsidize 75% of their premium, so they now don't care. But if he hadn't subsidized 75% of their premiums for Congress, Senate, and their staffs, then they might not be so eager to have this thing fully funded and implemented. But Obama took care of them. But when he goes out to these low-information audiences and college kids, he doesn't care. He just tells them how wonderful and how great it is, and they'll deal with it later. "

"You really have to wonder, if Obamacare is so great, why did Congress demand to be exempted from it? And they did. I mean, they demanded to be exempted from it like the elites demand to be exempted from everything they subject all the rest of us to. Why are the unions trying to get their own carve-out? Why is everybody trying to make some move to get their own carve-out or waiver from this thing if it is so wonderful? In fact, if it's so wonderful, why does it even need to be sold at all? Why does Obama have to go out there and tout the thing, if it's so wonderful? I mean, it ought to just sell itself, shouldn't it?"

[loveliberty2]

Quotation from James Madison, often referred to as "the father" of the U. S. Constitution, in THE FEDERALIST, No. 57, (Excerpt):

"I will add, as a fifth circumstance in the situation of the House of Representatives, restraining them from oppressive measures, that they can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interests and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny. If it be asked, what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer: the genius of the whole system; the nature of just and constitutional laws; and above all, the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America -- a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it.

"If this spirit shall ever be so far debased as to tolerate a law not obligatory on the legislature, as well as on the people, the people will be prepared to tolerate any thing but liberty."

[Kaslin]

You must have a strong stomach if you were able to listen to that lunatic

[Kaslin]

Great post as always.

I haven't read you in a while, hope all is well with you.

[MarineMom613]

From what I’ve read, muslims got the exemption because their religion is against “gambling” and insurance is a form of “gambling”. (will I or wont I) Don’t really know what the end result was, but I think they got the exemption.

[Jack Hydrazine]

I found this article from FrontPageMagazine that says the exemption for Muzzies is false.
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/eric-burns/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/

But it does say this...

“Nevertheless, PPACA rules offer a situation where American Muslims could qualify for the religious exemption. If an individual is a member of a “health-sharing ministry,”—a religious non-profit organization in which members contribute money to cover the medical expenses of those in need—they are exempt from the requirement to purchase insurance.”

Reading the whole article is worth the time.

[Timber Rattler]

Well, it was actually kinda funny because hosts Brian Wilson and Larry O’Connor are mostly Conservative, and when they pointed out the double standard, Moran just started spitting into his phone with rage.

[MarineMom613]

will do, thanks.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Collectivists hate it when you reveal what liars they are. All their hatred spews forth post haste!

[Kaslin]

Are you talking about this Brian Wilson?

He used to work at FNC and is indeed a conservative

[Vaduz]

If you like your plan, you can keep it,” unless you’re an average American citizen then you will receive the LTD plan (Let them die).