Posted on 08/20/2013 6:26:42 AM PDT by xzins
The Chicago Tribune has finally reverted away from home-town boosterism of the President and is now telling him to, essentially, admit that his signature ‘achievement’ is toast:
"[President Barack Obama] crusaded for [obamacare] and has embraced its nickname. But he did not write the law. Congress did. Major changes are necessary — he has stipulated by his actions that this law as constituted cannot work — and Congress should legislate them for his review."
"Bottom line: Let’s delay and rewrite this ill-conceived law. Congress need not start from scratch. Lawmakers can build on what all of us have learned from three years of painful trial and error. Three years of attempting, but failing, to make this clumsy monstrosity work for the American people."
By all means, let us have a, ah, temporary delay in implementation – which is Beltway-speak (sorry about that) for ‘let us kill this monstrosity, throw it into an unmarked grave in federally-protected wetlands, pour lye into the hole, cover it up, go home, and never speak of this ever again.’
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
“Forget the place exists.”
Drone strike.... There, fixed it.
Irony in it’s purest form.
What are you doing here on a site for smart people?
Asking The GOVERNMENT to “offer something national regarding health-care.” will get you nothing but bigger government
You are believing the lie. There is NO ONE who would be refused emergency care in any hospital in the USA
So the “30 million” without insurance are already sponging off the rest of us... and you want a GOVERNMENT PROGRAM to fix that????????
A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM??????????????
before the government got involved in health care doctors used to make house calls and everyone was taken care of by friends and neighbors and charities- all the government did was make it big and fat an bloated so that 70% of the money is lost in the bureaucracy (like EVERY government program)
Don't display your idiocy here... Demanding that “we must do something” will fly much better on libtard sites.
Here in Maryland they tax hospital bills of those of us who pay to go into a fund to pay for those hospital bills from those that have no insurance.
So while in some states that appears to be on the surface free soaking the hospitals(who have to charge someone for it BTW), here we get a direct bill for it that we see.
Congress created this problem under Reagan.
That definitely doesnt work.
Sorry at the moment our government has insisted that “healthcare” is a government-enforced monopoly.
I have no sympathy for free-market appeals, regarding a system which has more government mandates than any other aspect of America.
If we are going to free markets, then eliminate the massive, expensive and unfair system we have now,
THEN I will fight tooth and nail, for your freedom to insist we protect such a system.
That is NOT what we have now.
What we have now, is simply expensive, and grossly unfair to far too many Americans.
yeah, soak those greedy hospitals by forcing them to be charities, how dare they try to break even?
How ‘compassionate’
and you think demanding that THE GOVERNMENT fix it will help ?
It will only make it 10 times worse.
No, it’s not “compassion”, it only looks like it on the surface. They overbill me and mine and others to recoup the expense of the “charitable” treatment...just like all the rest of the folks who get emergency treatment at little to no costs.
Ever wonder why an MRI is billed at say $1500 but is only “allowed” $350 or so? Why are 2 Tylenol $50? Because they’re trying to get money from others to recover their “charity”.
Concierge services are where it’s at...get the damnable insurance companies, lawyers, politicians and the rest of the scum out of the medical profession.
All I am saying is Obamacare is the Democrat’s solution to a very real problem.
The Republicans do not have a counter-solution.
Therefore, the Republicans are losing this issue. 100%. The GOP needs a real, intelligent counter-proposal.
A solution. Where the heck are all those arguing against the Democrat proposal, with their own counter-proposal.
A real, solution.
I have seen no indication the GOP is in any way, interested in solving this (very real) problem.
The ONLY real solution is to get the government totally out of it
If the democrats ran the computer industry we would all still be using DOS version 15 on 286 based desktops
I disagree.
The government is in healthcare, bigtime.
If you want to get the government out of healthcare, I’m all for that and I support you 100%.
Unfortunately government involvement in healthcare is massive.
Therefore, we need to make that government involvement fair.
That is the difference in our views.
If you cannot get MY support, how in the world do you propose to get the support of people who currently oppose everything else you also support?
I am very much on our side on a bunch of issues.
But this is not one.
Our healthcare system is an absolute mess.
I couldn’t care less how the old system was viewed. It resulted in the best medical treatment in the history of the world.
If it was broke, then someone forgot to tell those who had hearts restored, cancer cured, limbs re-attached, and lives extended.
Anything that goes on the cheap with the doctors and researchers is something I don’t support.
Anything that advances better organization, management, efficiencies, etc., is something I would support. That isn’t ObamaCare, it isn’t single payer, it isn’t anything with any kind of death panel, and it isn’t anything dreamed up on the spur of the moment by a bunch of rinos so they have an alternative plan for political purposes.
See #32. Should have pinged you. Sorry.
I think maybe the difference in our opinions, has to do with government service.
I have been a private individual my entire life.
I am not covered by the government.
I believe that is the reason for our wide difference in views. I do not have a government program to protect me. That is why I am not pleased with the current system.
I believe this is the critical difference.
It is a critical difference.
Lots of posts removed here. Should be an alterate site for them, a dump site for the naughty posts. Make it a pay site, help with the bills! :)
meh, no worries.
I have thicker skin than that to get spooled up about being forgotten in a post. Pales in comparison to what your family is going through right now.
Prayers for your family and your son, I hope the prognosis for your son is good.
Best,
SZ
We don’t need a government run healthcare system, even one proposed by “Republicans”.
ObamaCare was based on RomneyCare, and Romney himself advised Obama way back when to do a national version. RomneyCare advisors were consulted about the thing.
http://mittromneycentral.com/op-eds/2009-op-eds/mr-president-whats-the-rush/
White House consulted RomneyCare advisors to shape ObamaCare
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/11/uh-oh-obama-consulted-romney-advisers-on-obamacare/
We do not need a “counterproposal” from the dimwits. All we need is a bill that would allow hospitals to compete and offer their own health plans, to allow physician-owned hospitals and charity hospitals to expand and to be created.
We don’t need RomeybamaCare and we are better off without a “replacement”
Thanks, SZ, for those kind words.
geez.. i had to re-read your post to make sure I got it- it is so fundamentally stupid at a level i have not seen on FR in years.
You talk about how there is laready massive intrusion in heath care by the government and yet miss the point that it is for that reason there is a problem in the first place, and say we need more government intrusion to fix it??????
seriously? is that what you mean? There is massive government intrusion so we need MORE government intrusion?
I am saying the GOP had best get with the program and propose a series of real solution to very real problems, or the Democrats will absolutely own this issue.
Where is the GOP solution?
(hint: zip so-far)
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