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Uninsured next year? Here's your Obamacare penalty
cnn ^ | August 13, 2013: 10:01 AM ET | Tami Luhby

Posted on 08/18/2013 7:52:07 PM PDT by Red Steel

To try to ensure that people sign up for coverage, the Affordable Care Act carries complex penalties for those who remain uninsured that could cost them hundreds, or even thousands of dollars. Some 6 million people could be hit with these fines in 2016, forking $7 billion over to the federal government, according to the Congressional Budget Office. ...

Here's how the penalties will work:

Uninsured adults will either pay a flat fee for themselves and their children or pay a share of their income, whichever is greater. ...

Not every uninsured person will be subject to the penalty, however. In fact, 80% of the 30 million Americans expected to lack coverage in 2016 will be exempt from the mandate, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Among those exempted include: undocumented immigrants, Native Americans and those who earn too little to file tax returns. Also, people who would have to pay more than 8% of their income for health insurance and poor adults who live in states that are not expanding Medicaid also aren't subject to the penalty. The uninsured can also file for hardship exemptions.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; zerocare
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To: umgud

“I lost my birth certificate. Does that make me undocumented?”

No, now you can call everyone a racist and run for president and a tax and spend progressive liberal.


51 posted on 08/19/2013 8:54:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: Red Steel

This will drive more singles and young married people into not declaring their income.

They are becoming a cash only part of society now due to Obozoliar Care and taxes.

This penalty will drive them more into unreported income and cash only.


52 posted on 08/19/2013 8:58:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: Red Steel

This will drive more singles and young married people into not declaring their income.

They are becoming a cash only part of society now due to Obozoliar Care and taxes.

This penalty will drive them more into unreported income and cash only.


53 posted on 08/19/2013 8:58:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: Red Steel

This will drive more singles and young married people into not declaring their income.

They are becoming a cash only part of society now due to Obozoliar Care and taxes.

This penalty will drive them more into unreported income and cash only.


54 posted on 08/19/2013 8:58:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: Chickensoup

“Test it out yourself, go online shopping for a specific item, go to 5 or so stores looking for it. You’ll see that item for weeks afterward on sites with advertising.”

My file history re where I was on the internet are erased whenever I log off. After some intensive shopping or product looking for, I will log off as soon as I finish.

I still get unsolicited ads from Data Mining for weeks.


55 posted on 08/19/2013 9:03:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Boy I don’t. of course I use Startpage. No tracking.


56 posted on 08/19/2013 9:09:13 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Red Steel

And America’s two foremost victim groups won’t have to pay anything at all.
This law was concocted for one reason: to take money from honest, productive people and give it to indolent obama-voters.


57 posted on 08/19/2013 9:28:51 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: Chickensoup

“Boy I don’t. of course I use Startpage”

How about a quick history/factoid re Startpage re costs if any, how it works, and how long you have used it.

Thanks


58 posted on 08/19/2013 9:30:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: Chickensoup

“Boy I don’t. of course I use Startpage”

How about a quick history/factoid re Startpage re costs if any, how it works, and how long you have used it.

Thanks


59 posted on 08/19/2013 9:31:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: nuconvert

Is this for anyone over 18 who is working?


60 posted on 08/19/2013 9:31:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: nuconvert

Is this for anyone over 18 who is working?


61 posted on 08/19/2013 9:31:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

there are great videos online about storage underground

using a sealed PVC pipe and a deep post hole

(makes it harder to find with a metal detector)

for anyone who still owns anything after that freakish series of tragic boating accidents last year


62 posted on 08/19/2013 9:36:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

there are great videos online about storage underground

using a sealed PVC pipe and a deep post hole

(makes it harder to find with a metal detector)

for anyone who still owns anything after that freakish series of tragic boating accidents last year


63 posted on 08/19/2013 9:36:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Einherjar
my wife must be wanting a new dishwasher.

LOL!

64 posted on 08/19/2013 9:40:52 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: VerySadAmerican; mickie
I sent an online inquiry to a catalogue web site. The next day, an ad for that company's product appeared on my aol. welcome page and various other pages on Huffington Post and remained there for almost a month.

This is actually not NSA or other spy programs....it's American business in cahoots with major web sites.....and/or shenanigans by unknown entities.

It made me sick to see this invasion of privacy...and I'll never do business with this company again....and I intend to let them know why, or my boycott is not effective.

Leni

65 posted on 08/19/2013 9:46:06 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Red Steel

All Government Bureau propaganda, all of them, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, POST, etc., All with big Government DC Bureaus:

They are attempting to call THE TAX, the propaganda “PENALTY” now.


66 posted on 08/19/2013 9:58:12 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Varsity Flight

Note the use “Pentalty” derived from “Penal”
Work Camp Arbeitsziehungslager propaganda. Intimidation speak.


67 posted on 08/19/2013 10:06:46 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Varsity Flight

Note the use “Pentalty” derived from “Penal”
Work Camp Arbeitsziehungslager propaganda. Intimidation speak.


68 posted on 08/19/2013 10:06:52 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Mr. K

I don’t know.
I would think that at 18 you would still be covered under your parents’ coverage.


69 posted on 08/19/2013 10:24:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Grampa Dave

www.startpage.com

doestn keep any of your searches so you get unfiltered searches without any tracking.


70 posted on 08/19/2013 12:46:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: txrangerette

That is the problem with the Right, they always accept the “lingo” of the left.


71 posted on 08/19/2013 4:01:23 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Paul R.

On Saturday’s Huckabee there was an electronics type guy who says the police can tap your phone even when it’s turned off.

A month or so back there was a “news” report about microphones and cameras in televisions.

The government can do things we can’t even imagine.


72 posted on 08/19/2013 4:22:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: headstamp 2

They won’t be cutting checks.. that’s the joke.. you think someone earning 20k a year with kids is cutting checks? No you are cutting checks to them. With the EIC and Child tax credits, they will see a refund of say 5800 dollars instead of 6000. Checks my butt, nobody will care because nobody will really see it, after their H&R Block person does their taxes and says congrats you are still get a super duper refund that will be the end of that.


73 posted on 08/19/2013 8:40:11 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Balding_Eagle
Did you see the story about our government selling our personal data to marketers?

That old ‘love of country’ thing is more nostalgia than reality... Jerkwads - those horrible control freaks in goverenment have ruined the country...(Hey you little sh*ts over at the FBI and IRS - and NSA - yeah I mean YOU)

74 posted on 08/27/2013 9:01:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Chicago's 10 year murder toll exceeds that of all US soldiers killed in Afghanistan..)
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To: Red Steel

I read somewhere that the IRS will NOT be authorized to prosecute people for NOT paying the fine. If this is true, once word gets out this in and of itself will crash 0bamacare.


75 posted on 10/01/2013 11:31:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: GOPJ

Popcorn time. When a high-profile celebrity in Hollywood gets their health care records, including a breakdown of all of their STD’s spread through social media like wildfire because some outsourced 0bamacare telemarketer in India sold his records for a few bucks, things should get interesting.


76 posted on 10/01/2013 11:33:14 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Sound waves hitting windows in offices and homes can be detected and ‘heard’ from the outside. No doubt that 0bama has his NSA, FBI and CIA listening and tapping into just about everything. This is how he gets the decisions he wants from SCOTUS. John Roberts is personally responsible for the government’s hijacking of 1/6th of America’s economy via Obamacare. He alone could have stopped it. It is CLEARLY unconstitutional and his written opinion was against Obamacare, so.. What changed his mind in the last minutes?


77 posted on 10/01/2013 11:49:45 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

And another clause giving the feds the right to watch you through yout TV.

Interesting that you say that. my kid just got a job with a regional cable company, and he told me that the DVR/HD boxes they install have the ability to do just as you describe. they only need to activate them.

when he learned this, he immediately began to look for a different job. it made him quite angry.


78 posted on 10/01/2013 11:53:31 AM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I’m just waiting for one of these hacking groups to actually make themselves useful and put everyone of these Obamacare pimps personal medical records on the internet for the whole world to see ...I think the technology and hacking aspect has a real chance of killing this whole thing ...just start splashing Brian Williams, Chris Mathews, and Rachel Maddows health records all over the internet for everyone to see, that would be a fun start


79 posted on 10/01/2013 11:59:03 AM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: QualityMan

I’ve been telling people this for decades and they laughed. We are being watched and we all volunteered. This computer monitor I’m looking at is looking at me. So is the TV screen. And we all have cameras spying on each other. They’re in our cell phones. We don’t even have to turn on the video. It can be turned on by the ones we pay to use it.


80 posted on 10/01/2013 12:30:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
When a high-profile celebrity in Hollywood gets their health care records, including a breakdown of all of their STD’s spread through social media like wildfire because some outsourced 0bamacare telemarketer in India sold his records for a few bucks, things should get interesting.

It's only a question of time... Then again, Hollywood pushed for ObamaCare - I'm sure they also pushed for exemptions for themselves - and other liberal elites. Jerks.

81 posted on 10/01/2013 3:14:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Grampa Dave
Is that the ‘policy’ with the $10,000 deductible?
82 posted on 10/01/2013 3:15:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Red Steel

Based on what you show, I’d see a roughly $1,000 penalty for no health care in 2014. That works out to about twice what my employer-sponsored premiums will be INCREASING in 2014, based on a meeting I just attended. Not to mention the increase in co-pays also going into effect that will drive up the out of pocket expenses.

That’s assuming I and my wife do all the screening prerequisites. If we don’t do those, the premiums go up another $1,000 for the year.

Yup, Obamacare is really helping with the cost of medical care for us “middle-class” people.


83 posted on 10/01/2013 3:23:19 PM PDT by ssaftler (Oh, hell YEAH!!!! This is absolutely Obama's fault)
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To: Grams A

Regarding undocumented immigrants:

Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

BOHICA, America!


84 posted on 10/01/2013 6:07:34 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright

This is just 120% B.S. Bet most will be on Medicaid.


85 posted on 10/01/2013 7:20:57 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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