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So What Happened to America?
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2013 | Roger Schlesinger

Posted on 08/12/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

I was out in the desert this weekend at our second home, where, borrowing the words from an old song "nothing is heard of a discouraging word" except if someone is discussing their round of golf. While waking my dogs for their morning ride in my golf cart I got to 'thinking of what's going on in this country and all I could think of was What Happened? And when did it happen?

Let me start in the middle of this discussion to try to illustrate my point. This part of my essay should be subtitled: “me and the Presidents” or for the English majors “the Presidents and I.” When I was under 10, and that is a close as I can pin it down, my father took us to the desert, which was Palm Springs and some interesting places surrounding Palm Springs. One of them was the La Quinta Resort which I guess was in Indio at that time and we stopped for some food or drinks.

We went into a big room and my father said after looking across the room, “that's Eisenhower.” I can't remember whether he said President or General but I do remember the name. The rest is much clearer than that.

1. In the mid to late 50's I saw President Truman at a Rams game in Los Angeles walking up the aisle as everyone was yelling "Give them hell, Harry".

2. In 1967 I believe, I got off the plane from Los Angeles to New York and went to the baggage claim and there was former Vice President & Governor Richard Nixon waiting with some people for his luggage. He had flown first class and I obviously didn't.

3. In the early 1990's my son and I were going to an office in Century City and as we turned the corner in the lobby my son walked into Ronald Reagan. The security guys with him laughed as my son said he was sorry.

4. In the mid 2000's I went to a luncheon in Century City which was attended by Jimmy Carter. When I parked in the building I had to open my trunk for an inspection. I met him and had a picture taken with him as my company had built a house for Habitat for Humanity.

5. In the middle 2000's Bill Clinton was the honored guest at a house in my gate guarded community and as I drove by the house he was going in so, I honked and waived and he waived back. I bring this up because none of it was a big deal. Today, however, when the President travels, streets are closed, Freeways in Los Angeles are closed, sections of downtowns are closed. WHY?

I grew up in the 50's and knew nobody who did drugs, smoked the funny stuff and basically didn't have respect. In high school if you were in the hall during school hours without a written pass you were in for a bad day. You might be suspended, given an invitation to spend an hour or two after school or on a weekend or maybe even paddled. Do I need to mention what most high schools look like now all day long?

In college our drug of choice was Beer. That's right, beer. There was some hard liquor around but very few drank it. The only birth control we had was abstinence, condoms, rhythm or good luck. I didn't know but a handful of girls who got in trouble (hersay) and I am not sure any of it was true. There obviously were some rush marriages, then and now.

What really changed America, in my opinion, began with the Vietnam War. To say that it was unpopular was a real understatement. I was too young for Korea and had already been drafted and deferred during the German crisis, when Russia surrounded Berlin, so Vietnam didn't impact me. But it did a lot to this country starting with the resistance to the draft, huge rallies and marches and the peace movement, although I am not sure I spelled it right.

The above mentioned war gave us the militant crowds of both men and women. With the advent of new forms of birth control we started expansion of the moral code and the rewriting of the America we knew. From then to now things started going downhill. Maybe it wasn't much different than earlier days, decades and centuries but we found out about what was going on with the evening news. Do you think we are all better off now?

It seems to me that what we lost is much dearer to the average American than what we gained. Losers include

1. Fun

2. Respect

3. Our Constitution

4. Faith in God

5. The American Dream

6. COMMON SENSE!

It doesn't seem worth it to me and it doesn't seem to be getting better. We all need to become vocal, start voting for the person, not the party, and stand up for your beliefs. It's much easier for things to keep going the way they are unless a massive effort is put forth to change it.


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Hmm, I didn't know Nixon was a Governor?
1 posted on 08/12/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

hippies ruined this country. I’m young and had to suffer thru years of hippie high school teachers and hippie college professors. If I could push a button and get rid of all the hippies going back to the beginning of their movement i’d do it - and America would be a lot better off.


2 posted on 08/12/2013 10:50:23 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: Kaslin

Obviously Rogie has never heard of Cloward-Piven or Saul Alinsky..
Pity... Could be he didnt want to know.. Planned orchestrated ignorance..

Only one way to be that sheltered and protected from reality..
He is lying... He did know.. and is playing a mental game..

Unless he is stupid..


3 posted on 08/12/2013 10:51:50 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin

A couple of things: Dallas, 1963; The attempt on Reagan’s life; 9/11 convincing us that Islam needs to be taken seriously.

It’s more complex than that, but the days where President Adams can walk down the street from the White house to a sandwich shop with a friend and nobody else are long gone.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 10:53:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Deathtomarxists
hippies ruined this country

Hippies were merely the offspring of the beatniks.

5 posted on 08/12/2013 10:54:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Deathtomarxists

Ecclesiastes 7:10
Do not say, “Why were the old days better than these?” For it is not wise to ask such questions.

And to quote from multiple places in Ecclesiastes: “There is nothing new under the sun.”

So true.


6 posted on 08/12/2013 10:55:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin

It can be summed up in a word: Immigration. The massive immigration, legal and illegal, from third world countries is what did it. Now we have “cultures” we have to put up with and can’t offend, and we have to be “tolerant” of immigrants who come here just for money and refuse to assimilate to our ways. I truly think this is the main reason, though not the only reason, our country has changed so horribly.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 10:58:53 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Deathtomarxists
Having been in college in the middle of the hippie era, I can offer a paradoxical comment. Int the late 60's and most of the 70's hippies were into personal freedom and were anti government. Nixon was in the white house so the politically active ones became democrats in protest.

Ironically, those people who did not mature, but held to what they thought it meant to be a hippie are now devoted to the government and work incessantly to deny personal freedom and limit the rights of the individual. The worst and most fervent of the aging leftists are people who never had the free spirit or participated in the demonstrations but always wanted to. Now, they are living what they think was the lifestyle of the free culture.

8 posted on 08/12/2013 11:01:11 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Kaslin

Current White House occupant is a third-world man.
And thus he is exhibiting third-world paranoia.


9 posted on 08/12/2013 11:02:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

The MEDIA and ACADEMIA was infiltrated by communists.

That’s what happened. Everything else followed.

Rush and Hannity and Levin are helping us wage a battle against it, but we have only scratched the surface of their treachery so far- since we can’t even TALK about Obama being a Kenyan Muslim Traitor.


10 posted on 08/12/2013 11:03:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Kaslin

“Where seldom is heard, a discouraging word, and the skies are not cloudy all day.” —— is the way I remember that line.


11 posted on 08/12/2013 11:04:01 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Baynative
RE: #8

I posted by accident as I was going to preview. --- I meant to add that a great example of the overzealous wannabes is Barack Obama who never participated ina civil rights march or demonstration, but read about them and always seeks the fulfillment he hopes to find

12 posted on 08/12/2013 11:08:21 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Kaslin

Lets keep it simple. America is finished and within a few years will be a dictatorship. We do not have the people who understand what has happened and all of the Federal Government is corrupt. That included both parties. We have NO power to stop it.


13 posted on 08/12/2013 11:08:31 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kaslin

What happened?

We walked away from God.

We disconnected fathers from their wives and children.

No God, no dad, no future.


14 posted on 08/12/2013 11:20:12 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Kaslin

“...expansion of the moral code...”?

You mean destruction, right?


15 posted on 08/12/2013 11:24:12 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kaslin

“start voting for the person, not the party,”
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Sounds good but unfortunately there are no longer ANY persons in the Democrat party worth voting for and VERY DAMNED FEW in the GOP. So where do we find these persons to vote for?


16 posted on 08/12/2013 11:26:15 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Kaslin

What happened? Lots. Just to name a few:

1) Loss of religious faith
2) Communist influence on every aspect of life
3) Fatherless, entitlement-minded minorities
4) Immigrants that refuse to “melt” into the pot


17 posted on 08/12/2013 11:33:08 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Kaslin

I’d agree that the two biggest factors were the Pill and the Vietnam war, but there were problems before that — such as socialist thought at toxic levels in academia and journalism.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 11:39:40 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Deathtomarxists
Hippies+Marijuana=Disperceptive Hippies + 40 years ....= 2013's "progressives"


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19 posted on 08/12/2013 11:42:43 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: RipSawyer
And those who will vote for the corruptocrats are flowing across our borders and breeding like rabbits.Those in power, the real party that rules this country, are not concerned about American ideals or values. They want to rule the masses, period. Whatever it takes to buy, beg, borrow, steal or manufacture that vote, then that is what will be. People need to realize that there is a Ruling Party, they can be D's or R's, whatever it takes. They don't really care as long they are in office. They are the ruling elitist and believe only in themselves.
20 posted on 08/12/2013 11:43:34 AM PDT by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: Kaslin

Bumped into Reagan and didn’t get vaporized by bodyguards! Bet it hurt though. :)
I read somewhere that (just under) 100 years ago, Pres. Wilson could walk out of the White House, alone, and take an evening stroll on the street.


21 posted on 08/12/2013 11:46:23 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: TexasRepublic

BINGO!


22 posted on 08/12/2013 11:49:32 AM PDT by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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To: Kaslin

He lost to Moonbeam’s Dad, right?


23 posted on 08/12/2013 11:50:31 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not so much the perniciousness was allowed, it became a federally enforced civil right of sodomic acts on Lot’s daughters, taxing us of our own children and custodies, in the name of peace and feminism.

The draft? What draft? The war on poverty and the LBJ draft for perversion are the real culprits.

First they start going for the poor and against tobacco, next they go rape your kids and take your guns.


24 posted on 08/12/2013 11:53:28 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Baynative
Having been in college in the middle of the hippie era, I can offer a paradoxical comment. Int the late 60's and most of the 70's hippies were into personal freedom and were anti government. Nixon was in the white house so the politically active ones became democrats in protest.

Few people know about what hippies were and confuse them with yippies and college kids, and politically active lefties.

Hollywood and the media somehow morphed all those non, and even anti-hippies, into "hippies", think of all the TV images that would portray the judge, or the PHD, or the Senator as an ex "hippie" when in reality hippies were drop outs who wanted to go live their own lives outside of the system and politics, and they could not have simultaneously been obtaining law degrees, political careers and PHDs.

25 posted on 08/12/2013 11:53:53 AM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: Nea Wood

Yep... the demographic changes in this country are moving at a more rapid pace than ever before, far outpacing the rate of assimilation. Our schools don’t even teach American kids the facts about their country’s history, nor do they help foment a sense of national identity, not to mention the very mention of God in schools can get you suspended.

So, if American kids aren’t given the strong foundation in the education process, WTH are we to expect for those from other countries? The concept of a “melting pot” went the way of the Packard. Now, Americans are expected assimilate to the cultures of the immigrant communities.

Add to all that the shattering of any semblance of a moral and respectful social order, and it all adds up to a dying society. I don’t see a 50-state America entity surviving to the mid-point of this current century.

We had a good run, though... it was truly grand.


26 posted on 08/12/2013 11:55:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: HomeAtLast

We’d like to think that we have a civilized country, and even the most passionate amongst us would not go around looking to molest and injure people on the street who do not agree with us.

The Left apparently does not feel the same way.


27 posted on 08/12/2013 12:08:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ansel12
"...and they could not have simultaneously been obtaining law degrees, political careers and PHDs."

That's a good point. Nor would they have spent their lives working for the government they once rejected. The leftists are a ball of confusion and conflicting ideals. The one value they all share is the belief that no one is entitled to anything they government didn't give them.

28 posted on 08/12/2013 12:09:51 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: ScottinVA

Right we are finished due to demographics. Immigration has ruined our country. We will be a third world hell hole in less than a decade.


29 posted on 08/12/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by lone star annie
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30 posted on 08/12/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kaslin; All

Number 7. Virtue

- Not from a biblical sense, but just a simple knowledge that people have between what is right, and what is wrong...

Number 8. Transparency

- Real transparency, that leads to real responsibility and thus real accountability for your actions...People are too quick to blame their mistakes on someone or something else...


31 posted on 08/12/2013 12:15:09 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Kaslin

Sublimation.

Conservatives feel that posting will fix the nation.

Since conservative sites started has the US gotten better or worse?


32 posted on 08/12/2013 12:37:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: Kaslin

***What really changed America, in my opinion, began with the Vietnam War.***

It started with the beatnik movement and then the hippie movement as the bulk of the baby boomers began to challenge all authority for anything. Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll! Tune in, Turn on, drop out!


33 posted on 08/12/2013 12:40:02 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Kaslin
[Art.] But it did a lot to this country starting with the resistance to the draft, huge rallies and marches and the peace movement, ....

No, it didn't. KGB Active Measures did. To believe otherwise is to believe that all those protesters sprang up out of the ground on their own, incensed by a war hardly anyone else, in 1965-67, was paying any attention to, and we were winning anyway.

Or do you belive in magic?

The above mentioned war gave us the militant crowds of both men and women.

No it didn't. The KGB did. After years and years of trolling and recruiting and influence-managing and cultivating stooges and fools, the KGB did.

Believe it or die. Because now everybody wants a piece of us. That is what the KGB's success during Vietnam did for us.

34 posted on 08/12/2013 12:42:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cuban leaf
Chasing God out of the classroom sure didn't usher in The Age of Reason that's for sure. As I was reading this it just hit me that we have lost the understanding that we are not really masters of our own fate. We've lost the understanding and the practicing of ‘’In God We Trust’’. We've done so because the Left knows that people who do trust in God, in a ‘’higher power’’, a ‘’Creator’’ know there are limits to the power of men and that the individuals right to think freely and live with the understanding of ‘’render unto Caesar that which is Ceasar’s and render unto God that which is Gods’’ will never see any state, any body of men as the ultimate authority and it is this allegiance to Gods Law that the Left cannot abide be it the Communists, the Nazis or the Democrat Party.I know this because I was once a Leftist who reveled in ridiculing people of faith as zealots and ignorant, intolerant dupes. The Left, the Communists, the Nazis and the Democrat Party know the key to power is to destroy the family. Destroy the authority of the father, replace a mothers love with with state sponsored paternalism, destroy the concept of marriage as one man and one woman with homosexual deviancy and replace Judeo-Christianity with the godlessness of Marxism, Communism,fascism and/or Islam.
35 posted on 08/12/2013 12:54:56 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: lone star annie
Right we are finished due to demographics. Immigration has ruined our country.

Democrats wrote a law to replace the American voter.

From unionizing government, to Vietnam, to the 1965 Immigration Act, JFK was the end of us.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”

36 posted on 08/12/2013 1:01:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: TexasRepublic

BUMP


37 posted on 08/12/2013 1:03:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Kaslin

Madalyn Murray O’Hair -— Christians should have banded together at that time and strongly fought her lawsuit. We should have stood our ground at that time and not budged.

I believe that the downward spiral started before the 60’s. I think of McCarthy, and I do believe he was right on. When the drug culture became rampant, the slide downhill went really fast. And here we are.


38 posted on 08/12/2013 1:21:29 PM PDT by slipper (The best is yet to come)
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To: Mobilemitter

I would gladly tell you where you went wrong in that post except for one thing...you didn’t.


39 posted on 08/12/2013 1:39:47 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Elsiejay

Oh give give me a home...
where the buffalo roam...

and I’ll show you a filthy house!


40 posted on 08/12/2013 1:44:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Logical me
We have NO power to stop it.

SURE we do!

But...

...do we have the BALLS?

41 posted on 08/12/2013 1:45:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lurk
We walked away from God.

No!

You HAVE to be kidding!!





Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

42 posted on 08/12/2013 1:46:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
It started with the beatnik movement ...

Maybe. Those first generation beats like Kerouac and Ginsberg grew up in the Depression when there really wasn't much work and people were jumping on to freight cars or loading all their belongings on to a truck and setting off. I wonder if they weren't trying to prolong that restless, nomadic period.

The second generation beatniks and hippies were children of postwar affluence which they thought would never end. There's a tradition of rebels against adulthood and adult responsibilities going back to the Lost Generation of the 1920s, the Greenwich Village bohemians of the 1910s. Maybe you could trace that back to the Transcendentalists of the 19th century. As the country grew richer more people thought they could afford such a lifestyle.

43 posted on 08/12/2013 1:47:43 PM PDT by x
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To: HomeAtLast
Pres. Wilson could walk out of the White House, alone, and take an evening stroll on the street.

Now, if you're FAMOUS! and a person in Switzerland fails to recognize you when you walk into their shop at closing time...

44 posted on 08/12/2013 1:48:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
Culture degradation.

Funny, I was half watching the movie The Temptations (the singing group) that my husband was watching yesterday morning. I was listening to the wonderful innocence of not only the lyrics but the music as well. Even their movements.

I asked, "How did (black) musicians go from that to Fiddy Cent, Drake and far, far worse in four or five short decades? How?

Culture degradation. And we are right behind them and gaining steam.

45 posted on 08/12/2013 1:49:31 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: lone star annie
Immigration has ruined our country.

No; abortion has.

The 55,000,000 missing AMERICANs could have easily overwhelmed 13,000,000 illegals.

46 posted on 08/12/2013 1:50:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lone star annie
DDT almost ruined our precious symbol.

I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 
 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)
 
 
But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,
and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)
 
 
 
 
 
 
What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing
of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.
Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.
 
 
I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.
Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and
retirement?
 
 
 
 
 
Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses
before they are ALL dead!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

47 posted on 08/12/2013 1:50:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Because now everybody wants a piece of us.

They'd want MORE if we just QUIT giving it to them!


Let 'em want in one hand...

48 posted on 08/12/2013 1:52:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Have we forgotten BUSING?

THAT little endeavor totally ruined the major cities in this country!

49 posted on 08/12/2013 1:53:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
If we just leave them one hand, like the Mohammedans do, that might work for us.
50 posted on 08/12/2013 1:54:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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