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To: Flag_This

I would not call Hitler Jugend victims. I actually met a former Jugend in Germany, and he regarded it as the high point of his life. He still had his old party card, and is proud of a picture of him as a boy getting one of the numerous awards the HJ handed out.

Many of them were the last defenders of Berlin against the Russians, killing many before they in turn were slaughtered. The Russian attitude to them was the same as for the SS: to be killed on sight.

The purpose of such training camps is not activities, but memorization and recitation of political doctrine. Those who are best at this are promoted. Freedom of thought, questioning of doctrine, or any form of argument are strongly discouraged. All activities are group activities, be it exercising, eating, sleeping. Individualism is the enemy.

Doctrine always defeats common sense, experience, or caring for others. Lying to achieve doctrinal goals is encouraged. A sense of ruthlessness pervades.


13 posted on 08/11/2013 11:02:57 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"I would not call Hitler Jugend victims."

I understand your position, but the nazi adults took kids - starting at age 10 - and psychologically and physically manipulated them until they created the fanatics the allies eventually had to face. They were nazi creations. That's why I consider them victims. Having said that, had I been around in WWII, I would have unhesitatingly shot any hitler youth that did not immediately drop his weapons and surrender.

21 posted on 08/11/2013 3:07:34 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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