Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Libertarians flex their muscle in the GOP
Wash. Post ^ | 07/31/2013 | By Karen Tumulty

Posted on 08/01/2013 9:28:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160 ... 301-319 next last
To: ansel12
You apparently have no concept of the position your blanket condemnation places you in; in short the portion [of the Libertarian platform, which you posted] I referenced earlier was:
Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.

To which you replied:
I’ll take that post as you agreeing with the libertarian position on personal relationships.

That was not the question, the question was whether or not you believe it is within the purview of government to define, license or restrict personal relationships — do you, or do you not, believe this is withing the proper authority of government?

121 posted on 08/01/2013 12:51:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog
Not necessarily a good thing if like me you’re pro-life and don’t think drug legalization would be a positive

Libertarians are weak on Nat'l security and border control as well. And there are many atheists among them.

I don't trust them myself.

122 posted on 08/01/2013 12:52:04 PM PDT by what's up
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: listenhillary

Have fun on your back and forth with Captain Cut-n-Paste. Others learned to ignore him to death. If he didn’t have a copy of the LP’s party platform he wouldn’t have much to post.


123 posted on 08/01/2013 1:00:16 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

Actually the post that you jumped into to challenge was this, and it seems that your challenge is in support of the libertarian position.

1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.


124 posted on 08/01/2013 1:03:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: what's up
Libertarians are weak on Nat'l security and border control as well.

That depends on which ones you're talking to, IMO. -- I've not found them to be unreasonable on the position, whereas Republicans (in much greater numbers) are. As an example: Snowden and the NSA — republicans are apologists for the NSA, believing that they really do need to inspect that level of general communication regardless of the 4th Amendment; and they condemn Snowden as a traitor and seem to hold an rather religious view of secret/top-secret clearance.

(Yes the above is hyperbolic, but only slightly.)

And there are many atheists among them.

And? Doesn't that just mean that there's a lot of potential for sharing the Gospel? Like after Soviet Russia's fall, or in China right-now?

I don't trust them myself.

I trust them more than Republicans: who's helping in the pushing of Obamacare? Who's helping pushing amnesty? Who was it that pushed Obama-clone Romney?
Republicans.


* Note: I am talking about the national-level guys; the elite, if you will.

125 posted on 08/01/2013 1:05:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 122 | View Replies]

To: Orangedog

I notice that you have nothing but insults and personal attacks to bring to these threads, nothing of substance.

You have to be vague and elusive because you know that your feelings about homosexual marriage don’t do well on this conservative site.


126 posted on 08/01/2013 1:07:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: MarkRegal05

Try this one on him...

Fetal viability is well before the end of gestation. IOW, after a certain point... That child could be born and survive even though it hadn’t gestated the full nine months. As technology improves, that timeframe extends backwards towards conception.

In light of that, how is ending that viable human life NOT murder?


127 posted on 08/01/2013 1:07:47 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies]

To: listenhillary

It should be obvious by now that this other poster is just trolling.

Maybe if we ignore it, it will go away...


128 posted on 08/01/2013 1:09:37 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies]

To: Orangedog

It wouldn’t be so bad, but you make a point, and he just ignores it while trying to use someone else’s words to try and paint you with.

Blatant trolling at its dumbest. And i’ve seen a few doozies come and go.


129 posted on 08/01/2013 1:12:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
Are you reading what you are posting? What I posted was response to a portion of this section of text that is so offensive to you:
1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.
See the underlined portion? That's what I am asking you about.
What I am asking is this:
Do you believe it is within the purview of government to "define, license or restrict personal relationships"?

130 posted on 08/01/2013 1:12:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

I’m sorry, but the federal government has not authorized you to communicate with me over the internet. Please refrain from doing so until you have proof of your authorization to post to me. Thank you!


131 posted on 08/01/2013 1:13:46 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: Responsibility2nd

I seem to recall that someone on the radio once said that libertarians are nothing more than cofused liberals. I don’t recall who said it. I am beginning to think they may right.


132 posted on 08/01/2013 1:20:09 PM PDT by Jean2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Orangedog
LOL - That level of sarcastic irony does not deter him. (Proof here, in reply to post #111.)
133 posted on 08/01/2013 1:22:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 131 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

He seems to be a fan of repetition so I figure he can appreciate getting that reply a few dozen times.


134 posted on 08/01/2013 1:32:37 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

You need to tell me if you are supporting their position or oppose it, then you can start the other discussion.


135 posted on 08/01/2013 1:34:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 130 | View Replies]

To: Orangedog
"I don't see what people are getting their panties in a bunch over with the gay marriage thing."

With positions that you guys have, we know why you must join together in a child's circle of personal insults and avoidance.

You cannot speak openly and honestly of your politics on a conservative site.

136 posted on 08/01/2013 1:41:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 131 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

I’m sorry, but the federal government has not authorized you to communicate with me over the internet. Please refrain from doing so until you have proof of your authorization to post to me. Thank you!


137 posted on 08/01/2013 1:42:10 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: dadfly

My goodness where were these dinosaurs during the Amash NSA vote? Quietly hiding I suppose.

Listen, your theory? I don’t even know how someone could come up with that.

RINOs are really what one might call Neo-Conservatives. NeoCons, to use extreme over-simplification as you illustrate you are capable of....NeoCons, are basically Big Govt. Democrats who like war and occasionally throw a bone towards Christians (passively). At what point did Bush/Cheney attempt to slash government? When does John McCain not support a massive police state? Why do they think it’s ok to have a massive spying infrastructure sniffing up all of our collective rear-ends? And an ever-expanding TSA etc.

I understand for many of you, Social Conservatism trumps all, and it doesn’t bother me as long as you don’t go all Police State on me. RINOs you see are there to quietly and in a sneaky way allow big government to flourish while at the same time occasionally going on Fox News and acting incensed about it. Keeps the sheeple in line. You’ll see them buckle at the funding ObamaCare vote.

So in my case,
1. Paul/Cruz/Lee type I would vote for
2. Any republican supporting the massive spy infrastructure no matter what position they hold on anything else, is done with me. Never again will I be tricked into a Bush/McCain/Romney.


138 posted on 08/01/2013 1:45:01 PM PDT by techworker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
You need to tell me if you are supporting their position or oppose it, then you can start the other discussion.

I gave it to you, chatting with you on another post, before: so I have already told you my position; you were then (and seem to be now) highly accusatory and unwilling to listen to someone else's stance if it did not align perfectly with you own.

Therefore, I ask you again:

Do you believe it is within the proper authority of government to "define, license or restrict personal relationships"?

Or, we can start with this question: Are you a Christian?
139 posted on 08/01/2013 1:45:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

Wow, you really want to go all over the place.

Which post was it where you told me that you agreed or disagreed with the libertarian position that you want to start justifying and explaining?


140 posted on 08/01/2013 2:00:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160 ... 301-319 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson