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Posted on 07/17/2013 9:53:21 AM PDT by ToxicMich

Josh Miller never gave much thought to where his car, bed or toothpaste came from until an aluminum plant in his hometown of Ravenswood, West Virginia, shut down about four years ago.

The closure left 650 people without a job, including Miller's father-in-law, in a town of roughly 3,800, triggering a familiar pattern. The unemployment rate in Jackson County more than doubled, businesses shuttered and Ravenswood's quaint downtown became a ghost town.

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To: Mase

Yes just keep repeating that mantra.


51 posted on 07/17/2013 1:39:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: expat_panama
and what you're really pushing is you want the rest of us to pay higher import taxes and you're disappointed that we don't want to.

Whether you want to or not the tariff should be imposed on you. If you are to stupid to see what is happening then FedGov™ should step in. This is one area where the Feds ARE SUPPOSED to interdict. That and border control.

But don't worry, the spigot is wide open and your slave made products are pouring in daily. Until we have a shooting war in Asia then all of this "Free Trade" BS will stop; that can't happen soon enough.

52 posted on 07/17/2013 1:46:37 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: expat_panama

By your logic EVERY manufactured item should be made by the lowest cost troll. NOTHING should be made here in the USA right? Just makes economic sense right?


53 posted on 07/17/2013 1:48:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: driftdiver

When will we finally offshore every manufacturing facility to the third world because it only makes sense that the absolute lowest cost labor should be employed. < /sarcasm >


54 posted on 07/17/2013 1:50:15 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
It'll happen soon enough: we have the Affordable Care Act, the IRS targeting conservative firms, and the EPA colluding with the enviros to hammer businesses, the DOT shutting bus firms down, among others.

Yet a protectionist will insist that the government can "protect" us.

55 posted on 07/17/2013 1:53:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
It'll happen soon enough:

Then we will be Asia's bitch, your Mandarin dream come true.

56 posted on 07/17/2013 1:56:33 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Typical: when a protectionist is told some fact, he starts yammering about the Chinese.


57 posted on 07/17/2013 1:57:28 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The closure left 650 people without a job, including Miller's father-in-law, in a town of roughly 3,800, triggering a familiar pattern.

You have no thoughts on this? This doesn't disturb you in the least? If not, you are a cold fish bastard.

58 posted on 07/17/2013 1:58:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I only become a “cold fish bastard” when some toothless moron from Virginia tells me that 100 million people need to pay more for aluminum to save 650 jobs.


59 posted on 07/17/2013 2:02:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I only become a “cold fish bastard” when some toothless moron from Virginia tells me that 100 million people need to pay more for aluminum to save 650 jobs.

Can't answer the question? But it think it does bother you. So the 10 or 20 Republican upper level management types, at what was probably a profitable aluminum plant, closed it down and created 3800 dyed in the wool Democrats. You are a real piece of work(not really the word I wanted to use).

60 posted on 07/17/2013 2:06:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

That thing about “creating” Democrats cracks me up—seeing that when I worked in the steel industry, I’d get to sit in my office on a Friday (having to work late, again), and get to watch my Teamsters pulling out of the lot at 5pm in their shiny new F-250’s, bass boat in tow . . . .


61 posted on 07/17/2013 2:10:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You are assuming that closed aluminum plant in the story was unionized. Do you know that?


62 posted on 07/17/2013 2:13:07 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I assumed nothing. Care to try again, dimwit?


63 posted on 07/17/2013 2:13:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: jboot

I just bought a set of Lodgeware, too. Nothin’ cooks like cast iron! I lost some pans in a recent move, so I was on the lookout. I found a number of pans made by a company called Tramontina at Tuesday Morning; I got a couple of saucepans. I’m set and Made in AMERICA. ;)

http://www.tramontina-usa.com/


64 posted on 07/17/2013 2:28:44 PM PDT by bannie
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To: driftdiver

Yes, repeating the truth is a good thing.


65 posted on 07/17/2013 3:04:33 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: informavoracious

Your statement illustrates you ignorance

They come from all over the world to buy the stuff we make.

Exports drive our economy


66 posted on 07/17/2013 3:11:36 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yes we can see the results of it all across the country.

Eliminated jobs.
Money shipped overseas to pay for materials and labor.
Knowledge shipped overseas.
Increased ‘profits’ which are then shipped overseas.
Control of American companies shipped overseas.


67 posted on 07/17/2013 3:54:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Doomers, as a rule, don't like facts that get in the way of their doom.

Doom, it's what protectionists and other economic illiterates eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

68 posted on 07/17/2013 4:03:53 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver
The only solution is higher taxes and more regulations.

Let's force those companies to hire Americans. Force them to manufacture here.

So what if they can't make money, make 'em do it anyway!

69 posted on 07/17/2013 4:26:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

boy that was predictable

how about not letting other countries buy our most precious knowledge, processes, and companies and then shipping everything overseas?

How about not giving them tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas? To companies subsidized by the govt in those countries. Heck in some cases the companies are owned by the foreign govt.

How about reducing regulations here to make America more competitive? The cost of labor is only one minor component.


70 posted on 07/17/2013 4:37:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mase

Real income increases? lol wow

Household wealth increases? lol maybe in China


71 posted on 07/17/2013 4:38:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bert

Tell that to the people who’ve lost their manufacturing jobs to overseas workers. Try buying a set of towels, a toaster, an iPhone or even furniture actually “made in America.” Exports don’t tell the whole story. An American company can export goods bearing their name that were made somewhere else.


72 posted on 07/17/2013 4:41:31 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: driftdiver
boy that was predictable

And silly. But that's what the big government conservatives are pushing.

how about not letting other countries buy our most precious knowledge, processes, and companies and then shipping everything overseas?

Which of these is so vital that we must prevent the owners from selling? Give me a list and we can discuss it further.

How about not giving them tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas?

I usually hear that claim from liberals. They never provide proof for their claim either.

How about reducing regulations here to make America more competitive?

What are you, some sort of free trader?

73 posted on 07/17/2013 4:43:44 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: informavoracious

If free trade is so good why are 40+ million Americans on food stamps while Chinese eat caviar and drive million dollar cars?


74 posted on 07/17/2013 4:44:32 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Which of these is so vital that we must prevent the owners from selling? Give me a list and we can discuss it further. “

I’m not your lackey, go f yourself.

Free trade is about redistribution of wealth, America’s wealth.

Pure and simple.


75 posted on 07/17/2013 4:45:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Awww, you poor girl.

Make a claim and no back up, that's a shock.

You're the only one who gets to decide how wealth should be distributed.

Kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

76 posted on 07/17/2013 5:02:03 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yeah I’m a business owner you idiot.

I want a strong America, you prefer a strong China, India and any other country with money to pay you.


77 posted on 07/17/2013 5:08:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Wrong, you idiot.

I want to make America stronger by making government smaller.

Big government conservatives, like you, want to make government more powerful, to force people to do what you feel will make America stronger.

Your way never works.

78 posted on 07/17/2013 5:14:48 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

lol yeah keep trying, your support for wealth redistribution tells everyone where you really stand.

I bet you were proud when China announced they had the fastest super computer.


79 posted on 07/17/2013 5:17:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
your support for wealth redistribution tells everyone where you really stand.

I'm sorry that Trayvon smashed your head on the concrete. I'll pray for your recovery.

80 posted on 07/17/2013 5:20:37 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: N. Theknow

I thought she was imported from Haiti?


81 posted on 07/17/2013 5:23:22 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: driftdiver

Not only is free trade good for us, so is overwhelming illegal immigration. Or so say our fearless leaders.


82 posted on 07/17/2013 5:24:21 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

Funny how the same people support both of those.


83 posted on 07/17/2013 5:38:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

How highly should I be taxed on plastic lawn furniture, in order that the U.S. has the fastest super computer?


84 posted on 07/17/2013 5:40:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

85 posted on 07/17/2013 5:46:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Is that kinda’ like your free trader = pro-illegal immigration BS?


86 posted on 07/17/2013 5:49:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

oh cmon its all about cheap labor right, business owners should be able to hire they want, right?

look around, is America doing better? no

Is China doing better, yes.
is India doing better, yes.
Is Pakistan doing better, yes.

on and on and on


87 posted on 07/17/2013 5:50:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I just find it odd that you want to increase my taxes because others are breaking the law. Par for the course, I suppose. The government can’t solve the illegal immigration problem, so let’s get the government to tax us even more . . . everyone aboard?


88 posted on 07/17/2013 5:55:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: driftdiver
I don't feel like letting this go, just yet:

right now, in my immediate vicinity, there are a couple hundred Mexicans who will perform the job I perform for my clients for less money--how exactly will having the government make me pay more $ at Wal-Mart when I need something solve the problem?

89 posted on 07/17/2013 6:04:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: driftdiver
Dazzle me with your business acumen.

What type of business do you own?

90 posted on 07/17/2013 6:09:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I could care less how you feel.


91 posted on 07/17/2013 6:40:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

A profitable one


92 posted on 07/17/2013 6:40:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

As long as you don’t have to buy anything from anyone.


93 posted on 07/17/2013 6:44:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: driftdiver
You meant to say that, "you could not care less how I feel." Is English your second language?
94 posted on 07/17/2013 6:54:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

well aren’t you the smart one. only the best liberal education for you


95 posted on 07/17/2013 6:57:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Hey, it’s the best I can do . . . whenever somebody cannot respond to the point I make during an argument.


96 posted on 07/17/2013 6:58:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va
By your logic EVERY...

Let's stop right there.  In the first place, I don't use flaky words like 'anymore' or 'every'.  That cr@p comes from your side.  In the second place, I'm not the one saying industrial production is up, it's your federal reserve that's saying it. 

97 posted on 07/18/2013 4:07:32 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: ncfool

Apple Mac Pro.


98 posted on 07/18/2013 4:10:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: central_va
...the tariff should be imposed on you...

We're all entitled to our own opinion.

Nobody's entitled to his own reality and what we got is back in the '40's America chose the lower tariffs that came with more jobs and higher incomes.  Most people's opinion is that these days we got enough problems with the Great Recession without trying to restart the Great Depression.

99 posted on 07/18/2013 4:22:24 AM PDT by expat_panama
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