Skip to comments.Searching for what's still made in the USA
Posted on 07/17/2013 9:53:21 AM PDT by ToxicMich
Josh Miller never gave much thought to where his car, bed or toothpaste came from until an aluminum plant in his hometown of Ravenswood, West Virginia, shut down about four years ago.
The closure left 650 people without a job, including Miller's father-in-law, in a town of roughly 3,800, triggering a familiar pattern. The unemployment rate in Jackson County more than doubled, businesses shuttered and Ravenswood's quaint downtown became a ghost town.
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Didnt you get the message, free trade is good for the economy.
Not all Americans are made in America any more.
Welfare and gubmint employee leeches. We seem to have the biggest share of the world market on that one.
Yeah, everybody else all over the world is gonna buy our stuff! Too bad we don’t make stuff anymore.
If I had the money I would start a chain of stores called “Made in the USA” and it would sell only items made here. Of course it is difficult to do since so many sub assemblies are made elsewhere so you woul dhave to define what is made in the USA and what is not by the percentage of parts and labor in the item. Would people be willing to pay the higher prices?
Simply put, through the unintended consequences of most Government policies, we encourage businesses to produce off-shore.
ifyou carried high quality, essential items, maybe. if they were throwaway things and such, maybe ot.
All of my favorite firearms are still made in America.
Nice idea, but where would you source your stock from? All I can find that is made in USA are plastics, simple metal castings and disposable items. In short, the kind of stuff that was made in Japan sixty years ago after the war. The stuff your grandfather called “junk”.
We're working hard on turning us all into welfare leeches. We lowered our tariffs on imported goods and put our own people out of work. And neither political party has a clue how to fix it.
One hundret pre-cent American made by the liberal enslavement cabal of government, schools, media and entertainment.
Since our personal financial resource are not limitless, outsourcing has become the best way to produce more crap for the same price.
Stupid en sensless consumerism lead to this. There is no pride anymore in a well thought and well made product. More is better now. Bring back pride and you will bring back the economy...
Handguns, rifles, and ammo.
including our commander and chief.
I buy lots of stuff made in the USA.
‘Course, I buy most of my stuff at antique auctions.
Yes it is. Unless you're a doomer.
Total manufacturing output in this country has more than doubled since 1975, but manufacturing employment has declined by more than 30%. Maybe the doomers should learn about productivity, and how increased productivity is the reason wages can increase faster than the rate of inflation.
Of course, it's a lot easier to be a doomer than it is to do some research.
There used to be a garment factory or shoe factory in many small towns across the US. That would be a start.
Walmart’s founder (Sam Walton) served in the Berlin airlift. He learned inventory control and product logistics there, and used these things when he opened his retail stores.
He was quite patriotic and tried to sell all “Made in America” merchandise for awhile. But, he had to quit. The shelves were getting emptier and emptier as more and more USA factories closed down.
Here in Pittsburgh, a local sports-talk host, in the dog days of July when the Pirates had fallen far out of contention but Steelers training camp had not yet begun...spent his entire 3 hour show interviewing the son of the man who invented the Wiffle Ball.
Was actually quite a fascinating conversation.
Part of the problem is that Sam tied to force US companies to compete with foreign countries at foreign county prices. Instead of explaining that the extra dollar you pay for that shirt is going to go to a US worker, he wanted the US company to sell at below profit.
What good do low prices do you if you have no job. Like I said, he could have explained that his prices were higher because it was being used to keep Americans working.
“Welfare and gubmint employee leeches. We seem to have the biggest share of the world market on that one.”
May I suggest lawyers, lawsuits, and prisons - America is in a league of its own.
Low prices are probably most important to people who are trying to live on savings or unemployment benefits while they find work. Even so, most Americans have jobs and they like Wal-Mart because shopping there saves them money, so they can get more bang for their buck. I don't know why some people have a problem with that. I suspect Sam would never have been caught telling his customers they had to pay higher prices to support some union or a company that couldn't compete.
Maybe you could ask big government to force all Americans to pay higher prices for all goods, not just those found at Wal-Mart, so that there would be more jobs. It's our collective duty, after all.
Are you just dense? Yes, I would pay higher prices to keep Americans working rather than some Chinese in a foreign sweatshop.
The customers patronize Walmart mostly because it offers low prices. Whenever Walmart has tried moving to higher price points the customers start shopping elsewhere.
I've talked to several well-connected folks at the remaining clothing factories to see what stands between them and reverting to US production. They all say the same thing: at the current price point and volume of mass-market clothing they could not afford to pay a US workforce, even with extensive automation. Moreover, the work force a the boutique plant is all Latino (read illegal), so they are really not on the same playing field. It is really frustrating. Unless you sell a product that you can make quickly in high volume with a small work force and can sell for many times what it costs to make it, you can't make it in the USA.
I talked to a guy years ago who was a buyer of men’s clothing for Sears. He said that Sears bought a dress shirt for $2 and sold them for $30. I have no idea what the overhead was for the store at the mall. A lot, I’ll bet.
Made in USA and Fair Trade Certified might be the best one could do to start such a store! Perhaps a co-op with a group of small investors could be started to get such a store off the ground...a single store front with an internet mail order business to start off with.
Really? That’s the stuff I find that’s made in China. The American made stuff I own is on the high end. I think this is one of those cognitive bias things, you find what you look for in the world. I buy quality regardless of country of origin, and find quite a bit of it is made here. If you think only crap is made here guess what kind of stuff you find made here. It’s all about what you’re looking for.
The same Jos. A. Banks now routinely advertises "any two suits in our store for $179!" So without adjusting for the considerable inflation in the interim, the Jos. A. Banks price point of 2013 is as much as 10% BELOW the price point of 1984. This isn't market forces at work. It is the result of the market being bypassed by companies employing slave labor.
Exactly. JAB is probably making more while selling for less than they were 30 years ago. All because they shamelessly exploit slave labor in some 3rd world country.
There are still many boutique industries in the USA manufacturing small amounts of upmarket products like firearms, timepieces and furniture. But I was referring to mass-market consumer goods that you would find in a typical store. You can find some US-made plastics like storage containers, hoses and sheet plastic products. There are still US-made metal castings to be found in the sporting goods, automotive and housewares section. But I challenge you to find ANY US-made clothing, shoes, small appliances, branded toys or electronics. You probably can’t. Those are the items that make up the bulk of sales in any store. Not many stores have a business model that rides on sheet plastics and seasonal lawn care products.
Those workers didn't go into the back office or the board room when they left JAB. They went into dead-end service jobs or the unemployment line.
I found a nice set of pans at Tuesday Mornings last week. It takes me so long to enjoy that store because I check the “Made In” of everything. I, then, talk about it—LOUDLY and A L O T.
You have to define what “your typical store” is. The big box retailers push low cost goods, the American labor force is not conducive to low cost goods unless they require almost no man hours to make (very mass produced, highly automated). So if that’s your typical store then yes you don’t find quality American made goods there, you also don’t find quality Japanese, Chinese or German made good there either. That’s just not what they sell, they are low cost retailers, and low cost comes at a sacrifice of quality.
Now if you’re not shopping in those places, but going to just SLIGHTLY more upscale places (like even Dillards) where cost stops being a primary driver and now you’re getting higher quality goods, and you’ll find your percentage of goods made in America goes up, because now the companies have a better margin to afford higher priced American workers.
So again it’s all about what you’re looking for, and where you’re looking.
I can’t understand why anyone would buy “Made in China” (or many other countries) items which come in contact with food. I figure that Germany, Great Britain, and the USA are the best at following safety standards.
Good point. I inherited much, and I’m hanging onto it. ;)
It tells you how inexpensive it is to make metal castings and extrusions, though. ;-)
OK, sure it sounds like a dumbass stupid thing to ask but the point is that we start with the reality that lower costs are good and higher costs are bad. My bet is that you got no argument there, and what you're really pushing is you want the rest of us to pay higher import taxes and you're disappointed that we don't want to.
fwiw, the problem is that you've been doing a poor job of convincing us while the rest of us have seen how tax cut's help America and tax'n'spending hurts America.
We need a new tax, that's the ticket. /s
So I do a lot of buying on the internet.
“If I had the money I would start a chain of stores called Made in the USA and it would sell only items made here”...
Brick and mortar store in here in Western NY:
I’ll still pay more for USA made...I wish a national chain store would stock a good selection of USA made clothing. Online seems like it.
Not sure who this 'we' is you're talking about but America's been picking up speed:
US industrial output picks up in June
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 » 05:02amUS industrial production picked up in June after flat-lining in May. It's been helped by improved manufacturing output and a jump in mining. The Federal Reserve says production of manufacturers, mines and utilities rose 0.3 per cent in June.
That's in line with analyst expectations.
Manufacturing output rose 0.3 per cent, following a 0.2 per cent increase in May. The factory gains are due to a 0.5 per cent rise in the production of durable goods.
The quarterly data highlights the sector's struggles in a lacklustre economy.