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Searching for what's still made in the USA
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Posted on 07/17/2013 9:53:21 AM PDT by ToxicMich

Josh Miller never gave much thought to where his car, bed or toothpaste came from until an aluminum plant in his hometown of Ravenswood, West Virginia, shut down about four years ago.

The closure left 650 people without a job, including Miller's father-in-law, in a town of roughly 3,800, triggering a familiar pattern. The unemployment rate in Jackson County more than doubled, businesses shuttered and Ravenswood's quaint downtown became a ghost town.

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To: jboot

There used to be a garment factory or shoe factory in many small towns across the US. That would be a start.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 11:01:32 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Walmart’s founder (Sam Walton) served in the Berlin airlift. He learned inventory control and product logistics there, and used these things when he opened his retail stores.
He was quite patriotic and tried to sell all “Made in America” merchandise for awhile. But, he had to quit. The shelves were getting emptier and emptier as more and more USA factories closed down.

Alas.


22 posted on 07/17/2013 11:03:31 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((S)
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To: Phillyred

Here in Pittsburgh, a local sports-talk host, in the dog days of July when the Pirates had fallen far out of contention but Steelers training camp had not yet begun...spent his entire 3 hour show interviewing the son of the man who invented the Wiffle Ball.

Was actually quite a fascinating conversation.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 11:09:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: faithhopecharity

Part of the problem is that Sam tied to force US companies to compete with foreign countries at foreign county prices. Instead of explaining that the extra dollar you pay for that shirt is going to go to a US worker, he wanted the US company to sell at below profit.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 11:12:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You mean Sam wanted to save his customers money so they could clothe and feed their families for less, thereby having more money leftover to use for other needs like saving for retirement, paying medical bills, funding college for their children and so on?

The horror!!

25 posted on 07/17/2013 11:33:44 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: ToxicMich
I don't know if Frisbees and Hula-hoops are still made in the U.S., but I believe I owe a much-belated message of gratitude to the Wham-O Toy Company. God bless 'em. ;-)
26 posted on 07/17/2013 11:39:39 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Mase

What good do low prices do you if you have no job. Like I said, he could have explained that his prices were higher because it was being used to keep Americans working.


27 posted on 07/17/2013 11:42:06 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Catmom

“Welfare and gubmint employee leeches. We seem to have the biggest share of the world market on that one.”

May I suggest lawyers, lawsuits, and prisons - America is in a league of its own.


28 posted on 07/17/2013 11:49:39 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So, you like higher prices rather than lower prices? Most Americans disagree with you, and the fact that more than 140 million Americans shop at Wal-Mart every week supports that opinion.

Low prices are probably most important to people who are trying to live on savings or unemployment benefits while they find work. Even so, most Americans have jobs and they like Wal-Mart because shopping there saves them money, so they can get more bang for their buck. I don't know why some people have a problem with that. I suspect Sam would never have been caught telling his customers they had to pay higher prices to support some union or a company that couldn't compete.

Maybe you could ask big government to force all Americans to pay higher prices for all goods, not just those found at Wal-Mart, so that there would be more jobs. It's our collective duty, after all.

29 posted on 07/17/2013 12:09:15 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Are you just dense? Yes, I would pay higher prices to keep Americans working rather than some Chinese in a foreign sweatshop.


30 posted on 07/17/2013 12:14:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The customers patronize Walmart mostly because it offers low prices. Whenever Walmart has tried moving to higher price points the customers start shopping elsewhere.


31 posted on 07/17/2013 12:21:02 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((S)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There were three shoe factories and four garment factories in my small hometown. All the shoe factories are long gone (the names I recall are Kessler and Mother Goose...can't think of the third one). Three of the four garment makers are still there, but only one actually makes anything (boutique high dollar suits and shirtings). The other two are now merely distributers of "quality" Chinese clothing.

I've talked to several well-connected folks at the remaining clothing factories to see what stands between them and reverting to US production. They all say the same thing: at the current price point and volume of mass-market clothing they could not afford to pay a US workforce, even with extensive automation. Moreover, the work force a the boutique plant is all Latino (read illegal), so they are really not on the same playing field. It is really frustrating. Unless you sell a product that you can make quickly in high volume with a small work force and can sell for many times what it costs to make it, you can't make it in the USA.

32 posted on 07/17/2013 12:25:37 PM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: jboot

I talked to a guy years ago who was a buyer of men’s clothing for Sears. He said that Sears bought a dress shirt for $2 and sold them for $30. I have no idea what the overhead was for the store at the mall. A lot, I’ll bet.


33 posted on 07/17/2013 12:29:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can pay higher prices then, and you’ll be very lonely. As I said, more than 140 million Americans shop at Wal-Mart every week. It appears that enthusiasm for your solution doesn’t exist. But you keep paying more anyway. The rest of us will continue to save our money so that we can buy more and save more.
34 posted on 07/17/2013 12:35:33 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Made in USA and Fair Trade Certified might be the best one could do to start such a store! Perhaps a co-op with a group of small investors could be started to get such a store off the ground...a single store front with an internet mail order business to start off with.


35 posted on 07/17/2013 12:42:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: jboot

Really? That’s the stuff I find that’s made in China. The American made stuff I own is on the high end. I think this is one of those cognitive bias things, you find what you look for in the world. I buy quality regardless of country of origin, and find quite a bit of it is made here. If you think only crap is made here guess what kind of stuff you find made here. It’s all about what you’re looking for.


36 posted on 07/17/2013 12:43:22 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Frankly, some of the price points are so low as to be absurd. I bought my first suit in 1984. It was a Jos. A, Banks suit, locally made. It cost me $100, which made my wallet cry "Uncle" at the time. But in 1984 it was an inexpensive suit. Better-quality suits went for twice as much, even then.

The same Jos. A. Banks now routinely advertises "any two suits in our store for $179!" So without adjusting for the considerable inflation in the interim, the Jos. A. Banks price point of 2013 is as much as 10% BELOW the price point of 1984. This isn't market forces at work. It is the result of the market being bypassed by companies employing slave labor.

37 posted on 07/17/2013 12:50:13 PM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: jboot

Exactly. JAB is probably making more while selling for less than they were 30 years ago. All because they shamelessly exploit slave labor in some 3rd world country.


38 posted on 07/17/2013 12:53:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: discostu

There are still many boutique industries in the USA manufacturing small amounts of upmarket products like firearms, timepieces and furniture. But I was referring to mass-market consumer goods that you would find in a typical store. You can find some US-made plastics like storage containers, hoses and sheet plastic products. There are still US-made metal castings to be found in the sporting goods, automotive and housewares section. But I challenge you to find ANY US-made clothing, shoes, small appliances, branded toys or electronics. You probably can’t. Those are the items that make up the bulk of sales in any store. Not many stores have a business model that rides on sheet plastics and seasonal lawn care products.


39 posted on 07/17/2013 1:00:55 PM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They employ 1/4 or less of the workforce that they did thirty years ago, too.

Those workers didn't go into the back office or the board room when they left JAB. They went into dead-end service jobs or the unemployment line.

40 posted on 07/17/2013 1:06:21 PM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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