Skip to comments.Where is the Hispanic Community?
Posted on 07/14/2013 8:41:21 AM PDT by aimhigh
Where is the Hispanic community? Why the silence in regards to the Trayvon Martin case? Here we have a Hispanic man that has been placed on the alter of Al Sharpton, to be sacrificed for Democratic Party politics. Yet the Hispanics have turned their backs on Zimmerman and remained silent.
Most Hispanics have completely different culture aspects then Black Americans. They work very hard to assimilate into general American society, especially with their children and they use the nuclear family as a vehicle for success, something American Blacks have really never embraced. Hispanics generally are very hard workers with excellent work ethics, and, are also quite different from most Black Americans who have terrible work ethics from the gitgo.
It is really amazing....because Black folks from Sub-Sahara Africa, the Caribbean basin, Haiti, Central, Latin, South America have very close family ties and very good work ethics also!!! They also tend not to have the hate and racism that resides in American Blacks from POTUS Obama on down!!! They also will assimilate into American society much easier, with less difficulty then native born Black Americans who have been taught to hate by their, so-called leaders!!!
To most Hispanics, Whites and other minorities, excluding American Blacks, George Zimmerman is just simply another American, which in fact, is exactly what he is!!! It is really American Blacks who keep themselves isolated from general American society...with great aid from their so-called leaders....who want to keep them chained to political and economic slavery!!!
For lack of a better word is why the term was made up-I suppose that technically it is all of us who are descended from those who came from Spain to the new world after around 1500 AD.
That most of our ancestors became racially and/or ethnically mixed once they arrived there, especially with the indigenous Native Americans-also makes us different from old world Spaniards.
“American” is my nationality-any ethnic connections come after that...
Exactly, they want driver’s licenses, free health benefits, free coupons for anything, legalization and nothing else.
Zimmerman is a “white” hispanic...
NOTHING could be further from the truth. mecha adopted the word for no other reason than to make themselves seem more powerul than they were. Many Mexicans and Central and South Americans were forced into speaking or acting spanish but that doesn’t stop them from having their own indigenous cultures.
They're racists - they don't like his pedigree of being 1/4 gringo and 1/4 black. What else explains it?
There is no such thing as a Hispanic, ergo there is no “Hispanic community”. What is taken for a “Hispanic community” can be clusters of people of Mexican descent in the Southwest and Chicago, a large cluster of Afro-Caribbeans in the greater NYC area, Cubans of all races in Florida. Zimmerman has a Peruvian mother, so he doesn’t fit into any of those groups. There is a sizeable Peruvian population in Los Angeles, but I doubt that they were even aware of this trial.
These different clusters of Spanish speakers don’t eat the same food, listen to the same music, or, in the case of many of the Cubans, vote the same way. Hence the “silence” from the “Hispanic community”.
It is quite obvious upon close examination. You can look at the events in other countries and find a definite pattern. The commies use the same play book-because it works.
Related: I do not think the average American even comes close to understanding that if all these illegals get amnesty, that there will appear, seemingly out of nowhere, groups of agitators for the newly minted citizens.
Seriously, it is a good question. Living in New Mexico for several years opened my eyes to some of the politics in the "Hispanics" community. There are huge differences between, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Mexican, South Americans.... At the root, "Hispanics" are those that trace their ancestry to Spain. Mexicans, most have Spanish ancestry, All the upper class in Mexico are probably mostly Spanish by ancestry, but the poor Mexicans are mixed with are primarily natives.
In New Mexico it is a huge deal. The native Hispanics trace their families to the original settlers to the area, who came over from Spain and settled in the area long before there even was a "Mexico", they do not identify with Mexico at all.....in fact it is a huge insult to call a native New Mexican a "Mexican American"... The same sort of relationships within their communities apply to others such as Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc... Its the stuff you will never hear in the lamestream media, they want to portray all Hispanics as a monolithic group....
Those groups are already out there. In this case, they couldn’t step forward because they would be deflating the impact of their fellow travelers race baiting the Martin issue.
La Raza, MALDEF, La Mecha, and others are poised to step up for a myriad off issues once this doesn’t involve going up against another Leftist effort.
You are right in that. Once granted legal status here, Katie bar the door...
The answer is that a Mexican is from a country, Mexico - and a Hispanic does not exist. It is an invented generic term intended to designate all Spanish-speakers as an undifferenciated mass - which they are not. There are Spanish-speakers who are white and blond, others who are Negro, others who are various types of Indian - and combinations of all of the above. There are Spanish speakers who are millionaires, university professors, average middle class people, unskilled laborers, and illiterates on welfare.
You make some good points, but I want to mention something.
Even for Blacks, it’s not generally the Black populace themselves making all the noise. In most instances it’s the agitators like Sharpton, Jackson, the NAACP, politicians and other loud mouthed advocacy groups speaking for Blacks.
In the Hispanic community there is more diversification, but that’s not going to stop La Raza, MALDEF, Mecha, politicians and other groups from fronting for them as if they were one people.
I agree with everything you observed, and I’ve seen it myself at first hand. Concerning American blacks, their problems are more cultural and ethnic than racial. One of their biggest problems isn’t with the black lower classes, but with the black middle classes, who refuse to take their lower-class brethren to task for their pathologies. It’s a solidarity that does no one any kind of good.
This is like asking where the Scottish community is, especially when you’re mentioning South American Hispanics. They’re like 19th Century emigrants to the US. They believe in individualism and not tribalism and even less collectivism.
“It could be that the average Hispanic doesnt have as strong a sense of racial identity as the average black.”
We can hope so. In a generation or two they will assimilate. The “average black” doesn’t seem to have any such interest.
Mexican is indeed a nationality. Hispanic isn’t a race; it’s a language group, like Arab. We have nothing equivalent for we English-speakin’ hombres, but we should.
There is no “hispanic” community just as there is no “hispanic” race, just a collection of various races and ethnic groups that happen to come from Latin American. Of course, our own country is the only one mentally challenged enough to classify a European-descended Latin American as “nonwhite” but an Arab or Armenian as “white.”
He is 1/4 Peruvian, 1/4 black, 1/2 Jewish. I believe I heard that.
Do you think Peruvians are from Mexico?
And if Zimmerman DOES get whacked by some black “activist”, I rather suspect that suddenly you’re going to see some serious, violent pushback. . .
Peru is in South America. They can migrate up through South and Central America and through Mexico, into the United States. But outside of that, no they are not from Mexico.
Now I know why so many are against him.
Since the term itself originally referred to the Latin American countries, never mind mecha, aztlan, la raza, ad nauseum, it is still just an ethnic label, nothing more. Many people prefer Latino/Latina, which at least refers to a person, rather than a place. And no one carries much water for those racist organizations in Texas, except lunatic California imports in far south Texas and liberal
I did not say it had anything to do with “culture”, and if there is an insistence on putting labels on an ethnic group, then call it “persons descended from ancestors who emigrated to the new world/Americas after 1500 AD”.
The reason those natives/indigenous people/Indians in the Americas were forced into speaking Spanish and acting according to European mores, was because they were slaves-right along with Blacks taken to the Caribbean, courtesy of the Spaniards, beginning with Hernan Cortez. They were conquered peoples, and back then, that meant that you got sold into slavery.
Their culture(s) became combined with those of the Spanish, and now, 500 years down the road has elements of both, from our Catholic celebrations, various dialects of the Spanish language, to the commonly served foods.
And this has very little to do with George Zimmerman-who was rightly judged not guilty-and the likes of Al Sharpton, who is still a bigot and race hustler...
Which was my point entirely.
Agree. They don't connect with Zimmerman because of his name. That, and the media stuck the ridiculous 'white Hispanic' label on him from day one.
So it appears that those here who are saying “where are the Hispanics” in regards to running around carrying signs, etc-are missing the point we both made separately-most of us of Spanish descent identify as Americans first-one people, no racial/ethnic distinctions, and not down rolling in that racial mud-unlike some Americans apparently. Something is very wrong with this picture...
I looked at Zimmerman as a guy standing up where law enforcement could not...it was a gated community. Historically, when a community is walled and gated - those that do not belong should not be there. The fact that Martin either stopped and attack or came back to attack showed irresponsibility - Martin created the situation by being there. If you are doing nothing wrong - then why react in a violent manner - regardless of stereotypes - regardless past aggression (slavery) - regardless of anything. What ever happened - to a pleasant introduction? Martin could have approached Zimmerman and stated that he was using his community as a safe haven - cutting through - because it wasn’t safe to walk through another neighborhood and been sincere about it...but that’s not how it played out because of the people in Martin’s life - he was taught the response he used. It’s Zimmerman’s fault - it’s the fault of those that should have raised him correctly. Now the U.S. has been divided up into Black, Hispanic, White, White Hispanic, Asian, and any host of other cultures that will be identified as race - where it should be just the human race.
“Mexican is a nationality. Hispanic is a race, apparently, although I would not consider it so.”
You are correct that Mexican is a nationality, but you are incorrect that Hispanic is a race. Hispanic is a linguistic group (i.e., Spanish-language speakers). Hipanics comprise many different racial groups. The original Hispanics (i.e., those from the Iberian Peninsula) were causcasian.
You're right on this ... interesting and insightful...
It IS starting to look organized...
That’s why I said “apparently.” People lazily (or driven by an agenda) call “Hispanic” a race when it really isn’t. Frankly I think it’s driven by Hispanics who want to be identified racially to get the goodies that go along with that. Thus, the inherent friction with other special groups.
well at least the left has finally admitted... Hispanic is not a race.
Which is why they have hyphenated the culutural moniker with “white.” Does that mean there are now Indigenous Indian Hispanics, and Afro- hispanics?
In Brazil they test for blackness... which is why a recent case of twins applying to the public university only had one successfully gaining entrance as black as the other twin was designated as white.
I was shocked when I first learned hispanics were some new race that was supposed to hate me. Funny, I never thought of them that way. They looked pretty much like ALL the italian kids I grew up going to grade and high school with...never thought of them any differently until the race baiters got a hold of the issue.
I absolutely agree with you. I am of an age to remember Dr Martin Luther King, Jr. He did not pay the price that he paid for the stuff that goes on now. I told my husband that all of this talk of that one is Hispanic, that one is black, or Asian, or white is the absolute opposite of what Dr King taught.
But as I have explained on FR over and over again, there is no “Hispanic community” because there is no such entity as a Hispanic.
Read more at link ( the MSM wanted to lynch Zimmerman ...) By date:
February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin
Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.
March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as “White”
The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.
Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.
March 13, 2012 - NBC’s Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative
Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:
Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was white: We think Trayvon Martin didnt know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.
Earlier that same day, Sharpton’s National Action Network released a statement calling for...
...a complete and thorough investigation into Martins death. He added: [W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his suspicions to police[.]
The story about Zimmerman’s use of racial language was false.
March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because “He Was Black”
About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.
Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot “bc [because] he was black.”
Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of “stalking” and shooting down Trayvon.
March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White
A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.
Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.
In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.
Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the “white Hispanic.”
March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a “White Hispanic” by The New York Times
Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term “white Hispanic.”
March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying “F**king Coon”
Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur “coon” when he had not.
This has to be watched to be believed.
CNN wouldn’t officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.
March 22, 2012 - NBC’s Al Sharpton Goes to Florida
Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama’s reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.
With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama’s Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC’s Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:
At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin’s parents. “Trayvon could have been any one of our sons,” he said. “Trayvon could have been any one of us.”
“We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don’t talk to us like we’re stupid! Don’t talk to us like we’re ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!”
Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.
“We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon,” he said.
March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton’s Talking Point
The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, “Trayvon could have been any one of our sons,” President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.”
In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation’s top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.
March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a “White Hispanic”
To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous “white Hispanic” bandwagon.
Many others would follow.
March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist
On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like hes up to no good. He looks black.
When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like hes up to no good. Or hes on drugs or something. Its raining and hes just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was “a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call.”
Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolve
check out reply #87
“People lazily (or driven by an agenda) call ‘Hispanic’ a race when it really isnt. Frankly I think its driven by Hispanics who want to be identified racially to get the goodies that go along with that.”
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