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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: hoosiermama

not one hour 33 minutes is state’s time left


2,781 posted on 07/11/2013 8:35:58 PM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: carriage_hill

Who is Leo?


2,782 posted on 07/11/2013 8:36:56 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: xzins

I read that the prosecution called Zimmerman’s injuries “insignificant”. I thought that was giving the game away. To say that is to admit that Zimmerman was injured by Trayvon, something I thought they were trying to deny. Anyone who has ever been hit knows that a broken nose is NOT insignificant. If someone breaks my nose causing me to go down to the ground and then he straddles my chest and starts beating me in the face I think I am totally justified in shooting him.


2,783 posted on 07/11/2013 8:37:38 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Cyber Liberty
A large meteor collided with Earth shortly after you lost power, and the rest of civilization is just now struggling to get on line.

Geez. Now I'm scared to miss the defense closing argument tomorrow, which I will have to do because I'm on the road for work.

2,784 posted on 07/11/2013 8:37:38 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: tioga

Not only muddied but bent


2,785 posted on 07/11/2013 8:38:39 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: advertising guy

Thanks wasn’t able to listen today


2,786 posted on 07/11/2013 8:41:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: hoosiermama

wanna bet Bernie objects 4 times tomorrow L O U D L Y ?


2,787 posted on 07/11/2013 8:45:57 PM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: Racehorse
All Zimmerman had to do . . . what I would do . . . was wait for the police.

You stupid sh**. He was heading back to his truck to do just that when he was attacked by Martin. No matter what he did before the attack, what counts is what was happening at the moment he fired the shot, in other words he was getting the shit beaten out of him and he had to do something to save his life. Martin is the one at fault, not Zimmerman. All Martin had to do was go into his father's house and leave Zimmerman alone and he would still be alive. You have your head square up you ass.

2,788 posted on 07/11/2013 8:47:28 PM PDT by calex59
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To: supercat

When you load seven rounds and put the magazine in you have the exact same situation as you have AFTER you rack one round into the chamber and then put the seventh round back into the magazine. The only difference is that you have to MANUALLY rack the slide to load the first round rather than the weapon reloading automatically. I have always loaded the extra round when target practicing and never found it to cause a problem. A seven round magazine is designed to hold seven rounds, I don’t know of any reason that a round in the chamber makes any difference.


2,789 posted on 07/11/2013 8:54:26 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: RipSawyer

it is a weak attempt to scare jurrors. OMG its OVERLOADED!!!!! aaaaaaaaah we are doooooomed!!!!!!!


2,790 posted on 07/11/2013 8:58:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: calex59

MnDude clicks like!!

Facts and the law really don’t matter one iota to a lot of people.

GZ shouldn’t have followed him.
GZ should have stayed in his car.
If only..... POOOOOOR wittle Twayvon would still be alive with his Skittles


2,791 posted on 07/11/2013 9:02:45 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: UCANSEE2
You can bet there are "community organizers" out there "organizing" the same kind of groupthink behaviour on social media, and they know all about "astroturfing" and using multiple identities.

It's about as believable as a "spontaneous" pro-government rally in North Korea.

2,792 posted on 07/11/2013 9:20:17 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RipSawyer
When you load seven rounds and put the magazine in you have the exact same situation as you have AFTER you rack one round into the chamber and then put the seventh round back into the magazine.

From what I understand, some firearms can only accept a fully-loaded magazine if the action is locked open first. In that scenario, the top round of the magazine will sit against the feed lips. Otherwise, any time the magazine is in the firearm and the action is closed, the top round of the firearm will be pushed or held down by the underside of the breech block. If a magazine of a given length, holding a certain number of rounds, can be locked into a firearm with the action closed, the magazine could be a few millimeters shorter and hold the same number of rounds if one was willing to have the action open when inserting it.

2,793 posted on 07/11/2013 9:35:34 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: RipSawyer

I should mention that on many pistols, it’s much easier to insert a fully-loaded magazine when the action is open than when it isn’t, and I’ve handled pistols where inserting a fully-loaded magazine far enough to engage the catch that holds it inserted is noticeably difficult when the action is closed, but easy when it’s open. I would estimate that on a 9mm, one could shave about 4.5mm off the length of e.g. a 7-round magazine if one were willing to have the gun be a 7-round total capacity rather than 7+1 (or, conversely, adding about 4.5mm to the magazine would greatly increase the convenience of loading the pistol with 8 rounds).


2,794 posted on 07/11/2013 9:48:13 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Joining in with prayer here.


2,795 posted on 07/11/2013 9:56:29 PM PDT by amom
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To: supercat

Go find a pistol designed such that it will not accept a magazine with the action closed, identify it, then report back. Until then, your theory does not hold water.


2,796 posted on 07/11/2013 10:35:55 PM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: tacticalogic
You can bet there are "community organizers" out there "organizing" the same kind of groupthink behaviour on social media, and they know all about "astroturfing" and using multiple identities.

They are in concert with the MSM organs to propagandize rabid rioters. Just this evening I probed the stance on the Martin/Zimmerman issue with a friend who is a college-trained engineer, a ham operator, a mental health activist, and a usually critical thinker. But on this issue, not having followed the case closely, regurgitated every falsehood and negative theory spread and hammered on by the MSM, to the point he almost became angry with me when I presented him with the facts and attitudes exposed in the trial.

Do this to the low-grade information sort of person, and you have a supporter of the deconstruction of a free society, of the economy, of the schools, and of the family. We have a continuing burden to openly insist on conservative and Christian values, sometimes forcefully.

2,797 posted on 07/11/2013 10:58:33 PM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: JPG
Mr. Guy: Your Honor, may I approach the dummy?

Judge Nelson: Mr. Guy. You do not have to ask leave of the court to approach Mr. De La Rionda. He is your co-counsel.

2,798 posted on 07/11/2013 11:36:16 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: viaveritasvita

“vis-a-vis” means “with respect to”. Literally, it means “fae to face”, IIRC.


2,799 posted on 07/12/2013 2:31:19 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: amom; BuckeyeTexan

Morning prayers
Amen to yours


2,800 posted on 07/12/2013 3:54:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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