Posted on 07/07/2013 8:19:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Asiana Airlines Inc said the pilot in charge of landing the Boeing 777 that crash-landed at San Francisco's airport on Saturday was training for the long-range plane and that it was his first flight to the airport with the jet.
"It was Lee Kang-kook's maiden flight to the airport with the jet... He was in training. Even a veteran gets training (for a new jet)," a spokeswoman for Asiana Airlines said on Monday.
"He has a lot of experience and previously flown to San Francisco on different planes including the B747... and he was assisted by another pilot who has more experience with the 777," the spokeswoman said.
Lee, who started his career at Asiana as an intern in 1994, has 9,793 hours of flying experience, but only 43 hours with the Boeing 777 jet.
Co-pilot Lee Jeong-min, who has 3,220 hours of flying experience with the Boeing 777 and a total of 12,387 hours of flying experience, was helping Lee Kang-kook in the landing, the spokeswoman said.
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There’s also a question from Uwe on page 3 that Eleua responds to, that speaks to some of the cultural issues that may have been contributory. Worthwhile.
Well, he's hardly a rookie, and I still want to know what happened to the left engine.
“Too slow, too low, and way too short.”
That was at the end.
Earlier in the approach they were way too high (over 600 ft over where they should have been).
The flightaware data shows this was a very bad approach from the start.
Why are so many blaming the pilot before a full investigation is done? Every single pilot flying on every airline today was “in training” at one time.
Look for Obama to name Lee Kang-kook the next head of The FAA.
I’m not sure if it was in “The Checklist Manifesto” or one of the Malcolm Gladwell books, but there was a Korean jumbo jet that crashed and killed all on board some decades ago because a problem seen by the copilot was not effectively communicated to the Captain due an excess of cultural deference to authority.
The book said that this problem had been addressed, but perhaps it hasn’t.
Isn’t it possible that captain was senior overall, but just new on the 777?
More than once, I have had to provide directions to CTA (Chicago) bus drivers to the location of next stop. In fairness, Chicago tears up streets annually to keep the wrinkles out of the union bosses’ bellies. Yet, a little pre-shift prep should be mandatory.
Conditions sunny, 10 mile visibility, with 8 mph winds It was SF Airport ground systems fault, PLEASE!!!
If this was an American company I doubt they would be this forth coming to the public. Hey if this was the U.S. govt they would outright lie to the public.
Maybe, but the captains doing the training tend to be pretty senior. Either way, there should have been plenty of total experience on that flight deck for a safe flight. I’m sure one area that will get a close look in the investigation is the crew’s use – or non-use – of crew resource management methods.
Then shouldn’t the fault lie more with the check pilot not monitoring the situation closely enough and not correcting the trainee pilot’s error before it caused the crash?
Having never *flown* an aircraft and never having flown anything but coach (except on two occasions) I couldn't answer that.I don't have the first clue who's responsible for what in the cockpit of a 777.
If it's his first time, or he has low hours in that particular plane, then he should be "co pilot" until he DOES have experience, regardless of whether, organizationally, he's the higher-ranked pilot.
They may not know which pilot until the day of the flight.
Had the pilot been Japanese, he might have to be put on suicide watch. Two dead, lots hurting, his fault; point of honor.
They needed to turn starboard but could only turn leeward.
Very good.
From the looks of it, that plane performed spectacularly. Cracked off the tail, belly-flopped on the runway and still intact? That is pretty amazing and testament to the fortitude of American-made Boeing aircraft.
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