Posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:36 PM PDT by drewh
So how powerful is this caucus? I looked at the list of members, and my former Rep (Jeff Denham) and my current Rep (Sam Johnson) are listed as members, yet they can be counted on to follow Boehner on every every significant vote.
/johnny
Yea just because he did all that as a Gov and has a life record of supporting each and every one of those things...yup. Delusional...
Complete lunacy...
1+1=3....
Get over him Lake. He was and is a liberal POS.
I’m coming around to term limits big time, the founders never anticiapted Senators sticking around for 25-30 years..
Remember GW 1 and read-my-lips? And the gun ban? Bush screwed himself by alienating his base.
/johnny
YES!
Me too!
Rand Paul is the wild card. If he’s rejected early enough by the ptb ‘pubs, I wouldn’t mind seeing an effective libertarian party taking elements from both parties. It could win, but it’s the end of the socially conservative issues. I could actually live with that if the feds would stop controlling every aspect of our lives.
Vote for the ‘rat and wait for a decade or two until that ‘rat can be removed.
You have a separate wing of the GOP they elect who they want to run for president...one conservative ...so we do not split the ticket against one rhino..a preprimary
/johnny
Great line...
Amen.
On the right, we have a combination of limited government constitutionalist type folks, and social conservatives who are Republicans who openly embrace and promote Christian morality and think govenment is there to help them. For myself, I think I'm a little of each. But there is a strain of "social conservatives" who are ... well, our bigots. For example, they cannot tolerate or abide a gay couple, and call them names, would perhaps want to seek them out and drive them away. Or that a kind-handed benefactor with a soft-spot for sinners is a "communist whacko facist." Those kinds exist, but they're ours. True conservatism is to keep the government out of it and let people make their own moral choices and pay the price for them. People have a right to discriminate for or against open homosexuality through their own peaceful actions that are within God's perameters of good behavior. We managed to do it pretty well for 200 years.
ON THE LEFT, you have a lot of sheep who are pretty sick of all the government nanny state, and who blame Republicans for it. They like to think of themselves as "libertarians" because they (like many conservatives) misinterpret the word. "Liberal" is what comes to their minds, and "libertine" is what comes to certain conservatives' minds. Some of the left's "libertarians" are radical anarcists who confuse "libertarian" with the concept of getting rid of all government except that which enforces thier vision, like stopping communities from outlawing abortion. They don't understand that in libertarian principle, Roe v Wade couldn't exist but a community would have the right to regulate or outlaw it as they saw fit.
Most people simply want less government, especially people who are legitimate American voters, stakeholder, taxpayers, folks with roots here. Elections are fraudulent now and that skews things.
In any case, less government will allow moreal people to live MORE morally, and to create MORE MORAL communities. Right now, governmemnt pretty mucjh prohibits it! A lot of Democrats hate that as much as a lot of Republicans do. THAT is the balance for the third party, and IT CAN BE DONE.
It can be done. But there has to be some give and take, and social conservatives are going to have to "give" on seeking Federal government oversight of moral failings. Abortion should be illegal in all 50 states, but I will settle for the overthrow of Roe V Wade because I think that local governents might surprise folks with solid moral choices in limited government.
staying at home and fraud gave Obama the next four years, and look how friggin great we are now to give a lesson,
yea that worked a frigging treat didn’t it.
exactly , screw all this , \\Why are the French , Greeks, Turks, Egyptians, Germans all protesting and yet Americans watch form their seats and asses marriage being ruined, economy, foreign policy, well do we really have one?
Sarah and Cruz call for a march on the white house and camp out and demand Obama step down and the SCOTUS be re done\\\\This is nuts, dear dictator is over in Africa on our dime, but closes our house, he then tells world leaders to accept his perverted homo agenda and that Africans should not drive cars or have A/C.
We are being spied on and the guys dying are lied to but again asses stay rooted, .
March and camp out in our millions where DC can’t hold us and get world coverage against the dicator
exactly
agree but you can’t tell some.
tell me you are kidding right, we are conservatives nad Paul wants then homo agenda, open borders, well sometimes he does on that.\\\The country is going to crap and all we need is another fool who is more liberal than most Dems on social issues
I disagree, the RINO’s are so imbedded in the GOP power structure that it has become virtually impossible to reform. Instead we need a new party where the leadership shares our values so that we don’t get stabbed in the back anymore.
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