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Sarah Palin Should Start a 'Freedom Party' (within the GOP?)
The Hill ^ | 07/01/13 12:13 PM ET | By Bernie Quigley

Posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:36 PM PDT by drewh

For the first time since the mid 1800s we hear today liberty voices rising from elected state officials including governors. But they're not in D.C.; instead they're in Kansas, Georgia, Michigan, Missouri and dozens of other states, making their own decisions on abortion, guns, constitutional law, ObamaCare, and practically everything.

But no leader yet emerges, and no center. It is, like Pirandello’s play, with actors in search of a theater and a leader.

Actually a leader is emerging: Sarah Palin. But new ideas need new forms to start again the conversation and bring in a new generation. For a fresh start, it should be distanced away from New York, D.C. and Los Angeles, which are all connected to a singular purpose. And it should leave out the decadent establishment press, described recently as “Versailles.” There is little journalism left, only the endless meanderings of adolescent irony, the wink, the nudge and knowing asides of insider jokes and caustic laughter.

There are more than 30 states culturally and politically related today in the center of the country speaking with a single voice. This is American heartland. A conference might be held to look toward a better and more representative future, because this is not about 2016 specifically, but the greater American future.

And regarding 2016, the big Eastern establishment money and influence will all line up behind New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) , and this time, they will not let go. But at every event, Palin brings the crowd to its feet. As a “constitutional conservative,” she could flip the establishment. Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) filibuster suggests it is ripe for change. The Bob Dole don’t-trust-anyone-under-70 crowd and the insular Weekly Standard group, which talks so disagreeably to itself, would stay away. But Palin could take the day.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bringsanity; newparty; palin; patriot; republicanparty; republicans; restoresanity; rnc; sarah; sarahpalin; takecontrol; thirdparty
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1 posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:36 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Not a 3rd party, but within or over RINOs.
If we can’t take over RINOs, how can we take over RINOs and RATs, with such close numbers?
Converts some decent RATs too!

GO SARAH!


2 posted on 07/01/2013 4:05:58 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: drewh

Palin, with one call, can bring in tens of millions to jump-start a political party. But, will she?

She is a private citizen with bills to pay and mouths to feed, so her decisions must make financial sense for her. Starting an organized political party might mean a lot of restrictions on her (long term) financial viability. Once she is stuck with a political party, especially the one she helps build, then all her eggs will be in one basket and she will lose a lot of flexibility.


3 posted on 07/01/2013 4:12:19 PM PDT by sagar
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To: drewh

“(within the GOP?)”

I don’t think so anymore. A third party is needed until the GOP rots away into oblivion in it’s RINO stench.


4 posted on 07/01/2013 4:14:27 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight

That kind of thinking elected Obama


5 posted on 07/01/2013 4:15:09 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: drewh

It’s time. It can be done. It’s been done elsewhere.
This doesn’t have to be like the “Ross Perot” fiasco.
The Republicans and the Democrats are too close together now, and they’re both wrong. It will take time, but it can be done.
I’m praying for you good people.


6 posted on 07/01/2013 4:17:20 PM PDT by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
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To: bert

The thinking that elected Obama was being the Cheap Labor, pro-globalist party. A true constitutional conservative candidate who spoke about going back to the US that nourished and rewarded accomplishment and was a nation ruled by its laws would’ve won.


7 posted on 07/01/2013 4:18:00 PM PDT by grania
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To: drewh

I think ‘Gang’rene has set in - ‘primary’ amputations are already in order and we’ll know if the rot is too systemic to salvage the GOP as a whole if the House votes out any sort of amnesty-scamnesty-shamnesty bill.


8 posted on 07/01/2013 4:23:30 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Proud2BeRight

Nothing wrong with a split convention, IMO. No way I can go with RINO Christie even if they sugarcoat it with Paul Ryan as Veep..


9 posted on 07/01/2013 4:23:58 PM PDT by drewh
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To: grania

Perhaps, but there was none.

Conservatives are so diverse they won’t agree on such a candidate.

If there is a new direction for conservatives in the Republican party, the presidential candidate must be selected by a Secondary. The winning Secondary candidate will face the GOPe candidate in the primary


10 posted on 07/01/2013 4:26:04 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: drewh
This is the GOP...

It is ready for the crusher, nothing left to restore, let's move on...


11 posted on 07/01/2013 4:26:55 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....)
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To: bert
That kind of thinking elected Obama

Shhhh, you might hurt their feelings and make them realize what they did..........unfortunately, the thinking part might never happen........

12 posted on 07/01/2013 4:27:29 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: onyx

“But Palin could take the day.”

PING


13 posted on 07/01/2013 4:28:38 PM PDT by stockpirate (GOP = Good Ol' Progressives)
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To: drewh

A party within a larger party - is that not called a “faction”?

At the moment, what is called the T.E.A. “party” is actually a loose coalition of somewhat unorganized but like-minded individuals, who have not yet fully articulated their encompassing vision or constructed strategies for asserting their energies and accumulated wisdom. So the “establishment” Republican faction, the guys with the money and who hire the “consultants” have a disproportionate say in what, if any, goals and objectives of the Republican party are or ought to be. Right now, the money people still seem to believe the Republicans and the Democrats are almost interchangeable.

But the Democrats are no longer just a loose coalition. They have been running an endless rally and internal campaign to keep their various parts tied to the same faction, a faction which more and more is being directed AGAINST the best interests of the United States as a nation of exceptional achievement and leadership. Their political discipline is astonishing, given the craven quality of most of their individual members, and their almost complete lack of moral principle. This internal discipline gave us the Clintons, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and as their crowning achievement, Barack Hussein Obama, which if viewed objectively. is about as “in-your-face” as they could put together, short of an armed insurrection. Election-rigging, endless challenges to established custom, almost outrageous demands for even more and more radical social and economic experimentation, using fake “science” to support these claims, and ridicule as an intimidation tactic.

The National Socialist German Worker Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) would envy the relative success of what the Democrat party of the United States has become.


14 posted on 07/01/2013 4:30:03 PM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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To: drewh

If Palin called for all liberty loving patriots to march on DC for a week the city couldn’t hold all the people, it would make the current protests in Egypt look small.


15 posted on 07/01/2013 4:30:19 PM PDT by stockpirate (GOP = Good Ol' Progressives)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Not a 3rd party, but within or over RINOs.

Or without. The GOP is completely unnecessary in order for Sarah to win. In fact the GOP has become the Conservative's biggest hindrance.

16 posted on 07/01/2013 4:30:59 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: drewh

Within the GOP?

We have been the unwanted stepchildren since Ronaldus Magnus left office.

Screw the GOP.


17 posted on 07/01/2013 4:31:50 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: bert; Proud2BeRight
That kind of thinking elected Obama.

It can be argued, bert, that YOUR kind of thinking (that a liberal/statist/progressive/communist/Marxist/nanny-state big government Republican ala McCain and Romney is "better than the alternative") elected Obama. For the first time in SIXTY YEARS, my politially-active Republican mom, who had voted straight Republican ticket for six decades, declined to vote for the Republican presidential candidate (Romney) -- and I did the same for the first time in 35 years of voting straight Republican.

Now you can say that people like us "elected Obama," but we can argue with equal credibility that people like YOU, people willing to go along with seeing outright leftism confiscate the Republican party's presidential candidates (and LOSE everytime doing it!!!) are what ultimately "elected Obama."

18 posted on 07/01/2013 4:32:15 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

My hands are clean. You and your mother both have unclean hands.


19 posted on 07/01/2013 4:34:59 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: bert

Maybe the GOP will wake up and realize that they thumbed their noses at their core constituency.


20 posted on 07/01/2013 4:36:36 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: drewh

Political parties rise and fall. Whigs, Federalists, anti-Federalists... Perhaps it’s time.


21 posted on 07/01/2013 4:36:56 PM PDT by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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To: alloysteel

The key is to focus on keep eliminating RINO’s in the primaries. Voting for a RINO is no choice at all...


22 posted on 07/01/2013 4:38:27 PM PDT by drewh
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To: Leo Carpathian

The Pubbies are the Washington General’s of politics. They aren’t there to win, they are there to make the other t4eam look good.

America’s only hope is for the pubs to go to the ash heap of history. The sooner the better.


23 posted on 07/01/2013 4:39:06 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Free Nakoula)
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To: TennTuxedo

Actually, the conservative constituancy has already developed clout.

The Caucus of House Conservatives is not only very alive but is making a difference. It is not Boener’s house any more.

http://rsc.scalise.house.gov/

Look at the marchers in Cairo. Why are there no marchers in DC? Because the President consiously destroyed their organizations. He should get up every morning and thank his SS crew for his life.


24 posted on 07/01/2013 4:42:16 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Not a 3rd party, but within or over RINOs.

Amen to that.....remember Ross Perot? He sank the George Bush's run against Bill Clinton by dividing the party. Every conservative has got to work hard to keep the congress and try for the Senate...this is not the election for a third party it is the election where Republicans must come together to stop the obama machine from hoodwinking the American voter again.....remember this latest $100 million dollar vacation for family and friends - America still needs jobs...he will welcome 20 million illegals (thought is was 11 million didn't you...well it ain't!) into the nation so his cronies will have cheap labor...Obama is like all Thugs around the world who loot their countries before being thrown out of office or leaving in the dead of the night............

25 posted on 07/01/2013 4:43:19 PM PDT by yoe
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To: drewh
The key is to focus on keep eliminating RINO’s in the primaries. Voting for a RINO is no choice at all...

So what do you do if the RINO in office doesn't even get a challenger in the primary? I think that is going to happen in too many cases.

26 posted on 07/01/2013 4:44:47 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: bert

Did it bother you at all, that after the first debate Romney, Ryan, and their crack team of consultants did everything in their power to re-elect Obama?


27 posted on 07/01/2013 4:46:11 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Free Nakoula)
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To: drewh

She should start a new party, not try to stay within the framework of the GOP.

Sadly, I can no longer vote for a GOP candidate, they are no longer a Conservative party. If that means dems get elected forever, then so be it. I will no longer vote for the lesser of two evils.


28 posted on 07/01/2013 4:46:43 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: stop_fascism

The problem can be solved by purging the North East states from the union.

They are not going away so they must just be kicked out


29 posted on 07/01/2013 4:47:53 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Lakeshark; bert
Had Romney won, he would right now, with the support of "moderate" Republicans, Democrats, and chicken-hearted Republican "conservatives," be advancing and supporting under the Republican banner:

-- Nationalized Health Care
-- Pro Roe v Wade "right" to abortion
-- Global warming regulation to kill American-based energy and food production, not to mention manufacturing
-- Gun control
-- Gays in the military, the Boy Scouts, schools, marriage, and even adoption agencies
-- Activist judges who lean left

Philosophically and in his political record, and most important, morally, in his moral core, Romney was fully on board with the Democrats on ALL of those points. Right now, if you had "won," Romney would be slaughtering conservatives in the Republican party and turning Republicans into duped suckers who voted FOR him to do that (because there is no such thing as voting "against"), and those of us here who pointed at you and all that you voted FOR, after having warned you here that the only thing that counts is what you voted FOR ...

... had we said:

Shhhh, you might hurt their feelings and make them realize what they did..........unfortunately, the thinking part might never happen........

... we would be, sadly, 100 percent correct.

PLEASE START THINKING.

30 posted on 07/01/2013 4:48:40 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: drewh; KC_Lion; Lakeshark; stockpirate; Stonewall Jackson; SunkenCiv; SuziQ; svcw; TADSLOS; ...
Sarah Palin's Awesome Ping List

Contact the Speaker
(this link provides the e-mail form)


Office of the Speaker H-232 The Capitol Washington, DC 20515

Phone: (202) 225-0600



Fax: (202) 225-5117

31 posted on 07/01/2013 4:50:18 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: stockpirate

Thank you so much for the alert!


32 posted on 07/01/2013 4:51:06 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: sagar

I have sent Sarah Palin more money than ANY other politician. I will NOT follow her out of the Republican party.


33 posted on 07/01/2013 4:52:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: drewh

We already have a movement within the Republican Party. It’s called the TEA Party. We have had great success in state and local politics and are slowly making headway in the national seats in power.


34 posted on 07/01/2013 4:52:50 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Proud bitter clinging wacko bird chirper.)
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To: yoe
Obama is like all Thugs around the world who loot their countries before being thrown out of office or leaving in the dead of the night............

All it takes is to look at the "playbook" of every country and state that went full on socialist and it will be so obvious as to what they clowns are doing and intend to do. Sarah Palin is still a force to reckon with. IMO, all she needs to do is rally every possible tea party that she can. The Dems have told us whom they fear and it is the Tea Parties and Patriot parties.

35 posted on 07/01/2013 4:52:53 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: Finny

Please understand that you are opining.


36 posted on 07/01/2013 4:53:58 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: bert

Yeah, I’ve always thought it a shame that they didn’t secede when they threatened to.


37 posted on 07/01/2013 4:55:09 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Free Nakoula)
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To: Finny

Your rant falls under the general heading of self serving rationalization


38 posted on 07/01/2013 4:55:23 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Finny; bert
Dearest Finny:

That's delusional.

I'm not suggesting Romney was anyone's first choice here, I'm not suggesting he would have been trustworthy, but...

Anyone who thinks he would have done the same things as the traitorous Marxist is a fool. We can trust what the Marxist will do.

Let me see, who should we vote for, the RINO squish, or the one like Hugo Chavez............oh, I can't think......I can't think......it's such a hard decision.......

39 posted on 07/01/2013 4:56:06 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: onyx

No problem, she has me more excited then I have been in a long time.


40 posted on 07/01/2013 4:57:50 PM PDT by stockpirate (GOP = Good Ol' Progressives)
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To: bert
The Caucus of House Conservatives is not only very alive but is making a difference. It is not Boener’s house any more.

So how powerful is this caucus? I looked at the list of members, and my former Rep (Jeff Denham) and my current Rep (Sam Johnson) are listed as members, yet they can be counted on to follow Boehner on every every significant vote.

41 posted on 07/01/2013 4:59:25 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: bert
I won't vote for a liberal. Even one with a (R) behind their name.

/johnny

42 posted on 07/01/2013 5:01:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lakeshark

Yea just because he did all that as a Gov and has a life record of supporting each and every one of those things...yup. Delusional...

Complete lunacy...

1+1=3....

Get over him Lake. He was and is a liberal POS.


43 posted on 07/01/2013 5:01:56 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Reddon

I’m coming around to term limits big time, the founders never anticiapted Senators sticking around for 25-30 years..


44 posted on 07/01/2013 5:02:56 PM PDT by drewh
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To: yoe
He sank the George Bush's run against Bill Clinton by dividing the party

Remember GW 1 and read-my-lips? And the gun ban? Bush screwed himself by alienating his base.

/johnny

46 posted on 07/01/2013 5:05:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stockpirate

YES!
Me too!


47 posted on 07/01/2013 5:06:28 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: bert

Rand Paul is the wild card. If he’s rejected early enough by the ptb ‘pubs, I wouldn’t mind seeing an effective libertarian party taking elements from both parties. It could win, but it’s the end of the socially conservative issues. I could actually live with that if the feds would stop controlling every aspect of our lives.


48 posted on 07/01/2013 5:07:23 PM PDT by grania
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To: Reddon

Vote for the ‘rat and wait for a decade or two until that ‘rat can be removed.


49 posted on 07/01/2013 5:07:31 PM PDT by Paladin2
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